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re: Mississippi River pilots under fire
Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:45 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:45 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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And the OP literally talked about pushing legislation. Sounds like the typical leftist approach - dump law and government onto a problem by the truckload. It won’t actually fix anything, but let’s wreck it for the guy who’s doing better than me.
It’s legislation that keeps them in their spot. That’s a stupid effing argument
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:03 pm to EA6B
quote:
Don’t bring that in here, everyone knows that all it takes is a GED, and a Dad and Grandpa that are river pilots, and you’re on deck making $600K
nah, i mean everything he said is true. They have to go live at sea for 6 months and almost all grad from a maritime school. Regardless, each pilot can sponsor 2 people, which happen to be their sons 90% of the time and this is what people take issue with. There are also a lot of people on that river that worked their arse off to be in that position regardless and had to make sacrifices while others were at clubs drinking with their friends. They sacrifice their 20's to make that money
Also, I am fairly sure that a % of every pilots paycheck is taken and put directly in a group fund that is used to lobby for them, which is why this is continually unchecked.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 7:45 am
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:54 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Okay.
bullshite
Both are married to doctors - one that lives in St. Tammany and one on the Westbank.
But keep on thinking the world has to meet your definition of “fair.”
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:55 pm to BeaverPRO
Found the river pilot in this thread...
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:02 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Found the other river pilot in this thread.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:05 pm to Meauxjeaux
Found another river pilot in the thread.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:05 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
quote:No sir. I don’t make nearly that kind of money. I work for a construction company.
Found the other river pilot in this thread.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:06 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
And you should take the river pilot dicks out of your mouth.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:07 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
I know two pilots, and neither have family that are pilots.
I understand that’s anecdotal
I know about 20 and it’s all in the family. My anecdotal evidence is 10x better than yours
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:09 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Do you understand the difference between private businesses’ boards and a government regulatory board? Doesn’t seem like you do.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:09 pm to 610man
They have a good racket.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:13 pm to WhiteMandingo
No river pilot has had control of a ship like that either. Because they don’t actually control and pilot the ship. Their job is a complete farce and mafiaesque racket.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:13 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
quote:You seem mad. Mad at me for some reason, but very mad at people who are better at earning than you are.
And you should take the river pilot dicks out of your mouth.
Do you understand the difference between private businesses’ boards and a government regulatory board? Doesn’t seem like you do.
Is it just pilots you’re mad at? If yes, why aren’t you mad at the same preferential practices happening in literally every industry and probably nearly every business in the country?
Or are you so clouded with hate and jealousy that you think this is exclusive to pilots?
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:14 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:
There was a time, before radar, and the other sophisticated navigational equipment, where these pilots were necessary. Today though, it’s nothing but a political power play.
There are captains on tow boats pushing millions of dollars worth of Oil or Jet fuel through metropolitan waterways that make a fraction of these guys and they’re accountable for their performance vs these pilots who are immune and never even take the wheel of the ships that they supposedly assist.
They get onboard, grab a coffee and take a ride. If the vessel crashes into another vessel or hits a stationary structure, it is never the “Pilot’s”
fault as they’re immune. They could get on the radio and bark out orders for other vessels and cause chaos and it still would never be their fault!
The job is no longer necessary. Technology has made them redundant. No one has balls to stand up to them. Nungesser is their bitch too.
This.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:15 pm to WhiteMandingo
quote:
No, having to be trained and having 5000+ hours of time on the river and a degree from Kingspoint or another maritime school and being a pilots kid. Its not given to you like a business being handed down. You earn it.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:43 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
quote:
There was a time, before radar, and the other sophisticated navigational equipment, where these pilots were necessary. Today though, it’s nothing but a political power play.
There are captains on tow boats pushing millions of dollars worth of Oil or Jet fuel through metropolitan waterways that make a fraction of these guys and they’re accountable for their performance vs these pilots who are immune and never even take the wheel of the ships that they supposedly assist.
They get onboard, grab a coffee and take a ride. If the vessel crashes into another vessel or hits a stationary structure, it is never the “Pilot’s”
fault as they’re immune. They could get on the radio and bark out orders for other vessels and cause chaos and it still would never be their fault!
The job is no longer necessary. Technology has made them redundant. No one has balls to stand up to them. Nungesser is their bitch too.
^ This!!
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:01 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
Minimum requirements for applicants to river pilot apprenticeships
LINK
3205. Education Qualifications
A. In addition to the requirements described herein, the Applicant must have a bachelor's degree or diploma granted by a college or university accredited by one of the six regional accreditation agencies recognized by the United States Department of Education for the accreditation of degree-granting institutions of higher education.
B. Applicants shall document the aforementioned requirements by providing the board with a diploma or a transcript of the mandatory educational requirements.
AUTHORITY NOTE: Promulgated in accordance with R.S. 34:991(B)(3).
HISTORICALNOTE: Promulgated by the Office of the Governor, Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners, LR 29:2069 (October 2003), amended LR 35:1833 (September 2009), LR 38:2369 (September 2012).
LINK
3205. Education Qualifications
A. In addition to the requirements described herein, the Applicant must have a bachelor's degree or diploma granted by a college or university accredited by one of the six regional accreditation agencies recognized by the United States Department of Education for the accreditation of degree-granting institutions of higher education.
B. Applicants shall document the aforementioned requirements by providing the board with a diploma or a transcript of the mandatory educational requirements.
AUTHORITY NOTE: Promulgated in accordance with R.S. 34:991(B)(3).
HISTORICALNOTE: Promulgated by the Office of the Governor, Board of River Port Pilot Commissioners, LR 29:2069 (October 2003), amended LR 35:1833 (September 2009), LR 38:2369 (September 2012).
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:12 pm to MWP
quote:
I have always wondered if the pilots actually take over the bridge and operate or if they just acted as navigators to the actual Captain piloting the ship?
Pilots tell the captain what to do. They don’t actually take the helm.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:09 am to OysterPoBoy
quote:
lesbians
wrecks galore finna eat on MS river.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:13 am to bee Rye
quote:I know about 30 and I do in fact know TWO that are not sons, grandsons or nephews.
quote:
I know two pilots, and neither have family that are pilots.
I understand that’s anecdotal
I know about 20 and it’s all in the family. My anecdotal evidence is 10x better than yours
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