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re: Minimum wage battle is going to destroy small businesses!
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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Sure, if you have an actual physical or mental disability. That doesn't describe 99% of workers I've seen in fast food places for example
There are for sure people that could be doing more and don't deserve a $20 an hour job, but LA isn't trying to raise minimum wage to $20 like California. But you do have people working fast food as a second job, or a someone that got let off, or just someone that is retired and needed to go back to work because of the cost of living.
But the LA minimum wage increase was going to be from $7.50 to $10, that's nothing. That $2.50 an hour isn't putting a small business out of business and if it does, your business is already on the way out because you're not making any money or you don't need employees. $7.50 an hour is a joke, I'm sorry.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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But you still need labor to install, run, optimize and maintain the tech.
A lot fewer people with a different skillset.
Those with no skill or education are still being left behind because they arent keeping up with current demands.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:24 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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NawlinsTiger9
You think that is funny but it is true.
There is a group of people that are perfectly happy as long as they have a roof, food and a phone and nothing more.
Zero desire to improve their lot in life.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:25 pm to BuckyCheese
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This right here is the problem.
Then you should theoretically support an increased min wage.
The min wagers are getting it regardless. The less they get from their employer, the more they get from the government.
So really it's your choice. Should these people be getting more/all of it from the revenue generated by their employer, or should they get more of it from your taxes?
For me, I'd rather McDonald's make less money than my taxes go towards welfare. I guess you may think differently.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:25 pm to SaintEB
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Indeed
Take a 20yo young man. No wife, no kids. Like more than half the country, he didn't go to college. He's working at the grocery store making $10/hr and has been there for 2 years. He lives in rural LA.
What the frick good does Indeed do for him? He's not qualified for any sort of remote position. He wouldn't mind going to school but the nearest tech school is a 60 min ride, but his piece of shite 1998 pickup truck can't be trusted to make that ride. He's sharing rent with 3 friends, his rent, truck insurance as a 20yo, phone, and his share of utilities is eating up his entire paycheck.
Again, what's the solution here? What do you tell this young man? Join the military? So young people should be forced to be put in a position to die just to establsih themselves? This is your idea of the US?
But wait, the grocery store is now going to pay him $20/hr. Not because they're forced to, but because they recognize that $10/hr isn't enough to live on. He's been there two years and deserves a sizable raise.
How much does that young man's future outlook improve based on receiving fairer compensation at age 20? Enormously. It improves enormously. People need to get paid what they're worth and hiring American workers, who have gone through the American education system, who have shown some semblance of a work ethic, NEED to be compensated. This young man isn't some Guatemalan dude fresh off the boat willing to work for pennies...he's an American citizen, yet treated by his corporate overlords as some sort of alien who deserves nothing.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:26 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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But you do have people working fast food as a second job, or a someone that got let off, or just someone that is retired and needed to go back to work because of the cost of living.
Oh well.
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But the LA minimum wage increase was going to be from $7.50 to $10, that's nothing.
Looks to be about 33% increase, but maybe my idea of nothing is different than yours.
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That $2.50 an hour isn't putting a small business out of business and if it does, your business is already on the way out because you're not making any money or you don't need employees
Must be nice to know everything about every business. quote:
$7.50 an hour is a joke, I'm sorry.
$10 is also a joke in today's world. Why not just make it $30?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:27 pm to Jbird
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The retard can get another job.
Bumfrick Louisiana, where you going to work besides the Subway, Walmart, or gas station?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Bumfrick Louisiana, where you going to work besides the Subway, Walmart, or gas station?
Bumfrick LA $20 an hour would be living like a king.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Bumfrick Louisiana,
Move.
Thats what people once did. Appalachia is loaded with poor people due to welfare. Once people moved when jobs ended, now they just collect a gubment check.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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For me, I'd rather McDonald's make less money than my taxes go towards welfare. I guess you may think differently.
Right
Apparently poor people should be held accountable but not multi billion dollar entities
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:30 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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He's working at the grocery store making $10/hr and has been there for 2 years
Sounds like a personal choice.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:30 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Move. I live in bumfrick Iowa and they are begging for laborers at 20-25 an hour.
Again if your dumbass is trying to raise a family at min wage you are too fricking stupid to raise said chirren
Again if your dumbass is trying to raise a family at min wage you are too fricking stupid to raise said chirren
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:30 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Then you should theoretically support an increased min wage.
Your theory is shite.
Remove welfare and you don't need a minimum wage.
You also wouldn't "need" to import millions of cheap labor from third world countries.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:30 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I'd rather McDonald's make less money than my taxes go towards welfare
Well congrats, you may get both as workers are laid off due to the ridiculously high wage.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:31 pm to fareplay
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fareplay
Can you use any economic principles or "laws" to demonstrate how an increase in minimum wage results in job growth? How come "follow the science" doesn't apply here?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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Oh well.
Yea sorry I'd prefer for this state not to be filled with more poor people that actually want to work.
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Looks to be about 33% increase, but maybe my idea of nothing is different than yours.
A 33% increase over shite is still shite.
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Must be nice to know everything about every business.
It's working out just fine.
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$10 is also a joke in today's world. Why not just make it $30?
Gtfo. But yea, $10 is still a joke, I'm just going off what the proposed raise was.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:32 pm to BuckyCheese
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Remove welfare and you don't need a minimum wage.
Correct. It becomes self regulating.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:32 pm to BuckyCheese
If you can’t find anyone to work, it’s not because a population unanimously decided to be lazy.
It means he isn’t offering a position or salary that will attract qualified candidates. Simple as that.
That’s what is funny - “the wage is fine” - clearly it is not.
It means he isn’t offering a position or salary that will attract qualified candidates. Simple as that.
That’s what is funny - “the wage is fine” - clearly it is not.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Move.
Thats what people once did.
Because it's super easy for people with no money to their names and shite vehicles (if they even have a vehicle) to just up and move?
Ya'll really have no idea what it's like out there for young people right now. It's not the 20th century any longer.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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Bumfrick LA $20 an hour would be living like a king.
Diary plants in Bumfrick WI are offering almost $30/hour, with free day care, and can't get people off the government couch.
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