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re: Millennials Work Harder for the Same Pay Their Parents Did
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:00 pm to Hester Carries
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:00 pm to Hester Carries
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Did I?
Not that I'm aware of. Congrats on being a lazy shite who is satisfied just treading water, you Millie fricking scum.
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:00 pm to CadesCove
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This guy works about 35 hrs a week, unless they are working on a big deal/acquisition. Those come around about once every year or two.
Yeah. That's a nice change of pace from firm life. I couldn't imagine having 20+ hours per week of my life back.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:00 pm to HeavyCore
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There aren't enough jobs man. That's the major issue. You used to just be able to walk into a place, talk to the manager, and get a decent 40hr a week job starting at 35k. That shite hasn't been a thing for decades now. The older generation doesn't seem to understand that.
Get experience in your field, don't think that you are above any job in your degree related field. I took a job out of undergrad in my field and the majority of my coworkers were not college grads, I worked there for a year gaining experience then applied for a job making more money and working with mostly college grads. I worked there for another year and took another job paying more that required more experience.
Just because you take a job doesn't mean you have to stay there.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:04 pm to CadesCove
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But please don't whine about not having enough opportunities in your career and forget whining about money. It's all about choices.
Taking out loans at 17-18 are terrible choices that saddle future economic growth of the individual, and eventually the country as a whole. How's that for opportunity? What about aspirations of pensions or retirement? These will be non existent for my generation. I'm just hoping I'm dead by the time that comes up.
And then you have this
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There was a golden age between WW2, and the rise of neoliberalism. People use the self attribution fallacy to congratulate themselves for making the most of the planet's easiest period. A lack of workers and an abundance of work, made even failures and poor decision makers into winners.
That age is over now. Technological innovations have reduced the work available, the rebuilding job is finished, the population has grown again, so there is more competition for work, meaning less money for the same jobs.
It's fine to grow up in easy mode, but when life gets harder again, it's fricking disgusting to take all the credit as personal acheivement, and to tell those who are sufferring the consequences of your own selfish attitude that they need to "work harder."
Baby boomers, the fricked the pooch for the rest of us, but hey, at least they did alright.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:04 pm to Epic Cajun
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Just because you take a job doesn't mean you have to stay there.
In fact sometimes the fastest way to climb the ladder is to bullshite your way into better positions at other companies. Just don't get the job hopper label and don't let yourself into a situation that you know you cannot actually handle because then your arse will be back at the bottom with a much harder climb.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:04 pm to Epic Cajun
I am saying that not one grad/professional grad had no experience. Even then, the notion that recent grads expect an inflated sense of salary is not what i have witnessed. Maybe my school's graduates are more realistic? Now the bloggers who i have seen complain online, but it's not enough to dismiss my experiences with my fellow recent grads on the market.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:08 pm to LoveThatMoney
Hours are generally better for in-house, but that can depend on how competitive the markets are (city, specialty, etc).
I will say I'd rather work 60 hours a week than worry about having to meet the magic number every month just to keep the lights on.
There's a very well-to-do solo practitioner in my building who didn't collect almost 60k in legal fees last year. But if you sue for your fees your malpractice insurance goes up.
In-house guys HAVE IT MADE
I will say I'd rather work 60 hours a week than worry about having to meet the magic number every month just to keep the lights on.
There's a very well-to-do solo practitioner in my building who didn't collect almost 60k in legal fees last year. But if you sue for your fees your malpractice insurance goes up.
In-house guys HAVE IT MADE
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:09 pm to fisherbm1112
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In fact sometimes the fastest way to climb the ladder is to bullshite your way into better positions at other companies. Just don't get the job hopper label and don't let yourself into a situation that you know you cannot actually handle because then your arse will be back at the bottom with a much harder climb.
It took two jumps to get to a place where I felt comfortable (in regards to my job duties and salary), I've been at the third job for ~5 years. If your jumps are in an upward trajectory I don't think it's an issue.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:09 pm to Montezuma
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I am saying that not one grad/professional grad had no experience. Even then, the notion that recent grads expect an inflated sense of salary is not what i have witnessed. Maybe my school's graduates are more realistic? Now the bloggers who i have seen complain online, but it's not enough to dismiss my experiences with my fellow recent grads on the market.
I know a few people that had really inflated ideas of what their professional careers were going to look like.
I know much more people that took crap jobs, moved away from where theyd like to live and work bad hours in order to gain experience.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:12 pm to junkfunky
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You did throw out a generalization,
No i didnt. I addressed the specific mentality of posters in this thread. Try reading.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:14 pm to Montezuma
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I am saying that not one grad/professional grad had no experience. Even then, the notion that recent grads expect an inflated sense of salary is not what i have witnessed. Maybe my school's graduates are more realistic? Now the bloggers who i have seen complain online, but it's not enough to dismiss my experiences with my fellow recent grads on the market.
I'm speaking from my wife's classmates in professional school. They are in the process of arranging their 1 year internships and most are expecting to be paid 40k+ for a fricking internship
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:17 pm to CadesCove
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Congrats on being a lazy shite who is satisfied just treading water, you Millie fricking scum.
lolwut?
Im 25 years old and have never not been working or in school. In 5.5 years I graduated with both a college degree and masters. I have paid off all of my student loans, make three times the national average for my age. And save at least 50 cents on every dollar I earn. But im a millennial so i must be lazy haha.
My whole point is that the previous generation of baby boomers have a lot of people that value hard work over smart work. Many of them are timecard stampers through and through.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:18 pm to LoveThatMoney
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:21 pm to Hester Carries
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No i didnt. I addressed the specific mentality of posters in this thread. Try reading.
You responded directly to me with
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There are a lot of company men old fricks in this thread. If you spend your whole life working 60+ hours for somebody else, dear god in heaven help your precious workerbee little arse.
Congrats on all the gritty, hard, character building work you did. But please dont romanticize it and try and convince other people to go down into the coalmine and earn their due.
Dumbass
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:21 pm to High C
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Millennials, too lazy to even read the OP.
He mentions cost of living inflation
You quote compensation inflation
Makes sense
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:24 pm to fisherbm1112
Sorry, I don't work as hard as my dad did at my age because I made better choices than my dad
The whole "he was raising a family and working 70 hours a week in a factory" shite that is spewed by older generations is hysterical. Sorry, our generation is smarter and has chosen to not get married and have kids before we are financially able?
Not to mention I chose a field that pays well instead of just finding a job.
The whole "he was raising a family and working 70 hours a week in a factory" shite that is spewed by older generations is hysterical. Sorry, our generation is smarter and has chosen to not get married and have kids before we are financially able?
Not to mention I chose a field that pays well instead of just finding a job.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:25 pm to Hester Carries
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lolwut?
Im 25 years old and have never not been working or in school. In 5.5 years I graduated with both a college degree and masters. I have paid off all of my student loans, make three times the national average for my age. And save at least 50 cents on every dollar I earn. But im a millennial so i must be lazy haha.
Millennials also lack a sense of humor much of the time. You are making HR departments all-powerful.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:27 pm to CadesCove
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Millennials also lack a sense of humor much of the time. You are making HR departments all-powerful.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:28 pm to Epic Cajun
Maybe they will. Are they at Stanford Law?
I went unpaid my first two, to decent to pretty good, but not 40k.
I went unpaid my first two, to decent to pretty good, but not 40k.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:28 pm to CadesCove
I just going to stop paying taxes. Nowhere in the constitution does it say we have to pay income tax. That will show these baby boomers when social security runs out. It won't be there when I'm 60
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