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Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:30 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
times running out on the wagies before they have to go to bed
at least the wagies can sleep in on saturday
at least the wagies can sleep in on saturday
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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The study says young men, ages 25 to 34, have plunged in the income ladder, with 41% of them earning less than $30,000 a year. That’s a change from 25% of young men making such low wages in 1975.
This is revelatory? No shite this is happening. For the first time women are being actively courted by employers and are qualified to do the jobs only men used to be qualified for. Women are crushing men in school. Which isn't surprising when schools are designed for girls and women to succeed. How many young boys can sit and take test after test? That's not how boys are wired and the current system is leaving them behind.
But hey, we've got progress for women so who gives a shite about the men, right? After all, it's us men who have fricked the world up so badly for so long.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Took a min. Wage job to start and went to school at night.
What was min. Wage then and what was your tuition?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:39 pm to More beer please
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Must have been nice for the previous generation going into a booming job market begging for bodies without experience. Or not having to undertake massive student loans in an economic recession just to get part of what jobs are looking for. All while not having to pay cell phone and cable bills knowing that the social security you are forced to fork over will never be returned to you
Regardless of what you've heard, the 70s and 80s were economically depressed. High inflation, interest rates and unemployment. Interest rates were double digit 1n 1982, reaching nearly 20%
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:43 pm to BowlJackson
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What was min. Wage then and what was your tuition?
$3.10. Rent was $288, tuition 2500/year plus books and fees.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:48 pm to More beer please
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Must have been nice for the previous generation going into a booming job market begging for bodies without experience. Or not having to undertake massive student loans in an economic recession just to get part of what jobs are looking for. All while not having to pay cell phone and cable bills knowing that the social security you are forced to fork over will never be returned to you.
"having to" is a stretch on both of these things.
1) Nobody is making you undertake "massive" student loans. LSU all in costs for tuition, fees, etc. is under $5,500 a semester. Add in housing and stuff and you're talking about what $80,000 over 4 years without even considering part time work during school or summer and zero help from parents. It can be even cheaper to go to BRCC for the first two years if you're really 100% on your own. I'd consider massive student loan debt the idiot kid that goes to Tulane or some other liberal arts school and pays more like $50k a year and ends up with $250-300k of student loans.
2) Cable is a giant waste of money. It isn't required (though internet is basically a necessity in this day and age).
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:that's a stretch
Regardless of what you've heard, the 70s and 80s were economically depressed.
REAL GDP GROWTH RATE BY YEAR
Dec 31, 1989 2.78%
Dec 31, 1988 3.84%
Dec 31, 1987 4.45%
Dec 31, 1986 2.94%
Dec 31, 1985 4.28%
Dec 31, 1984 5.63%
Dec 31, 1983 7.83%
Dec 31, 1982 -1.40%
Dec 31, 1981 1.29%
Dec 31, 1980 -0.04%
Dec 31, 1979 1.30%
Dec 31, 1978 6.68%
Dec 31, 1977 4.98%
Dec 31, 1976 4.33%
Dec 31, 1975 2.56%
Dec 31, 1974 -1.93%
Dec 31, 1973 4.02%
Dec 31, 1972 6.86%
Dec 31, 1971 4.38%
Dec 31, 1970 -0.15%
compare to the 2000s
Dec 31, 2016 1.90%
Dec 31, 2015 1.88%
Dec 31, 2014 2.49%
Dec 31, 2013 2.66%
Dec 31, 2012 1.28%
Dec 31, 2011 1.68%
Dec 31, 2010 2.73%
Dec 31, 2009 -0.24%
Dec 31, 2008 -2.77%
Dec 31, 2007 1.87%
Dec 31, 2006 2.39%
Dec 31, 2005 3.03%
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:52 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I was a pot head stoner and was strung out on meth at 16. I got Kicked out of alternative school due to an obvious obsession with drugs per the principal.
I moved out on my own at 17.
I was a white trash frick up.
I was making 50k a year by 27.
These youngens are bitches.
I moved out on my own at 17.
I was a white trash frick up.
I was making 50k a year by 27.
These youngens are bitches.
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:54 pm to Pecker
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This is why it's easy to pull arse if you have your shite together. So many dudes out there living with their parents and working dead-end jobs.
Yup. This has always been my argument. The generalizing of generations and comparing thing is dumb. There's bitch dudes in every age bracket. The SJW's are a much smaller minority than people think. frick them they don't matter. Times change and things change. The circumstances and experiences that shape groups of people are different for each generation coming up. So you get different outcomes.
Regarding the stuff that actually matters when looking at a generation's worth - like math and science and innovation and getting smarter and progressing the species and stuff - Millennial's are killing it in that department.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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$3.10. Rent was $288, tuition 2500/year plus books and fees.
When I was in school in 2010 minimum wage was (still is) $7.25 and tuition was around $10,000 a year for a cheap in State public school. So minimum wage barely more than double, but tuition 4x higher.
In the 7 years since then tuition has only increasef while minimum wage has stayed the same.
Here's a graph I found interesting:
So judging by what you said rent, mw, and tuition was I'm guessing you were in college in 1980. Pell Grants back then covered twice the amount of tuition that it did when I was in school. 70% vs 35%.
That's a striking difference. I qualified for Pell Grants, and I think most people who would have to work to put themselves through school with no help from parents would too. If I could've had 70% of my school paid for and not had to pay it back, things would have been much easier, I probably wouldn't still be feeling my debt as hard as I am today.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:15 am to meauxses
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Why add the expense of housing while you're in school if you don't have to.
Maybe so you can learn how to be a grown up...get your own place, pay the bills, gain independence and assume responsibility? Why grow up if you can live with mommy and daddy?
I know, perish the thought of Pajama Boy getting off his pansy arse. Frick millennials.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:18 am to mynamebowl
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Regarding the stuff that actually matters when looking at a generation's worth - like math and science and innovation and getting smarter and progressing the species and stuff - Millennial's are killing it in that department.
You are deceived...and ignorant.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:50 am to NOLApurpleandgold
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You are deceived...and ignorant
Maybe. Which of my points is ignorant?
That Millenials are doing well in the criteria I listed?
Or that those criteria aren't what defines a productive generation?
Posted on 4/21/17 at 3:03 am to rocket31
Not sure what point you are trying to make at my expense, but I don't disagree with that sentiment...to a degree. If you want to be a good for nothing mooch because being anything else makes you a "wage slave", fine.
But I don't make $100k a year. On the contrary. I make enough that my family lives comfortably while doing work that actually makes me happy and serves a purpose.
These shite for brains that sell their soul to big companies and allow those companies to run them ragged are who I am talking about. Been there, seen it first hand. Companies use the millenials with this "work first" mindset as if they are an inexhaustible work force, just dying to find work and willing to do anything for experience.
But I don't make $100k a year. On the contrary. I make enough that my family lives comfortably while doing work that actually makes me happy and serves a purpose.
These shite for brains that sell their soul to big companies and allow those companies to run them ragged are who I am talking about. Been there, seen it first hand. Companies use the millenials with this "work first" mindset as if they are an inexhaustible work force, just dying to find work and willing to do anything for experience.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 4:12 am to SEClint
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overpopulation. We need an asteroid to wipe out 1/3 of the world as a reality check. In those moments, all the stupid shite that is so talked about..wouldn't matter anymore.
This board has fallen into the abyss when the death of over 2 billion people gets 21 upvotes and 1 downvote.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 4:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
it's because they are fricking stupid, ZERO common sense
Posted on 4/21/17 at 5:49 am to bmy
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“More than four in 10 (43%) of work martyrs are millennials, compared to just 29% of overall respondents.”
Those fast food places will work your arse off, apparently.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 7:49 am to mofungoo
quote:I thought millennials felt that those jobs were beneath them. Which is it?
Those fast food places will work your arse off, apparently.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
What do you expect for a generation where "Thirty is the new Seventeen." A lot of these young whippersnappers care about things well in to their thirties that most older folks quit caring about when they left high school. 
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