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Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:36 pm to TheriotAF
That seems like massive control failure.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:35 pm to AUTimbo
If going to the boneyard it really shouldn’t have had much, if anything for cargo. We sent some a couple of years back with absolutely nothing, not even cargo rails.
Reporting now that 9 were on board. Horrible situation for whoever was on board but really hope there wasn’t a DCC on board bringing her to retire...
Reporting now that 9 were on board. Horrible situation for whoever was on board but really hope there wasn’t a DCC on board bringing her to retire...
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:38 pm to TheriotAF
Highly doubt that it was going to the bone yard with nine on board... But who knows
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:47 pm to cubsfan5150
Both are being reported so who knows.
I agree though that 9 seems high for retirement. We would send a crew chief (usually DCC or ACC) and maybe engines.
I agree though that 9 seems high for retirement. We would send a crew chief (usually DCC or ACC) and maybe engines.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:09 pm to VaBamaMan
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I cannot imagine the pilots thoughts as he was staring at the ground. Had to be an absolutely horrendous feeling.
Based on cockpit recordings from things like this, the flight crew probably was using every brain cell they had to come up with something that would get them out of the situation right up to the point of impact, in other words they were too busy to be concerned with their own lives.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:24 pm to EA6B
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Based on cockpit recordings from things like this, the flight crew probably was using every brain cell they had to come up with something that would get them out of the situation right up to the point of impact, in other words they were too busy to be concerned with their own lives.
Probably true in general, but one of the Air France 447 pilots was heard on the voice recorder to say in a matter of fact tone, "we're fricking dead."
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:28 pm to Jim Rockford
The guy who kept pulling back on the stick while they were in a deep stall???
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:30 pm to EA6B
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Based on cockpit recordings from things like this, the flight crew probably was using every brain cell they had to come up with something that would get them out of the situation right up to the point of impact, in other words they were too busy to be concerned with their own lives.
One of the reasons I could never be a pilot. The other is I'm legally blind in my left eye.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:31 pm to flyingtexastiger
I dont think they ever identified which one it was.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:40 pm to Sun God
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One of the reasons I could never be a pilot. The other is I'm legally blind in my left eye.
You can get a medical waiver and fly as a private pilot with one eye. If your vision in both eyes can be corrected to just 20/40 with corrective lenses you don't need the waiver. Unlike the old days not having perfect uncorrected vision will not prevent someone from becoming a airline, or Air Force Pilot, but there are limits on how bad vison can be without glasses or contacts, the Navy is still picky, but now allows LASIK correction I think.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:16 pm to Jim Rockford
Probably the captain. He came in last minute and saw the two bozo FO's were giving opposite commands on the side stick which neutralized any input.
Just don't get how any seasoned pilot would not push nose down in a stall.
Just don't get how any seasoned pilot would not push nose down in a stall.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:51 am to LewDawg
It wasn't load related. The plane was on the way to the boneyard. EDIT- second thoughts
That's just a guess. God bless the crews still flying 1965 model aircraft.
That's just a guess. God bless the crews still flying 1965 model aircraft.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 6:53 am
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:13 am to slacker130
Never felt safer than when flying in a C130.
RIP to that crew.
RIP to that crew.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:28 am to EA6B
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Unlike the old days not having perfect uncorrected vision will not prevent someone from becoming a airline, or Air Force Pilot, but there are limits on how bad vison can be without glasses or contacts
Not sure what the deal is now, but in the late '80s the FAA also had a limit on how much vision correction you could have to be an air traffic controller. I found that shite out after testing and interviewing. I was on my way to Oklahoma City (yippee!) until I wasn't.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:32 am to jcaz
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Just don't get how any seasoned pilot would not push nose down in a stall.
Colgan Air crash in Buffalo. Aircraft stalled and the Captain pulled the yoke back.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 8:01 am to starsandstripes
We flew from Al Asad to Kuwait on a C-17 when we left Iraq. I felt safe on that thing as well until the Texas pilot realized he had a load of LSU fans on his plane. He did a few climbs and dives to frick with us. Good times 
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:11 pm to White Roach
Fatigue apparently.
Icing is tricky too
Icing is tricky too
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:55 am to jcaz
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The pilot has been identified as Maj. Jose Rafael Roman, from the coastal town of Manati along Puerto Rico's north coast. The mayor of that town, Jose Sanchez, told The Associated Press that Roman had two sons and his wife is five months pregnant with a girl.
The names of the other eight fallen Airmen are:
Maj. Carlos Pérez Serra – Navigator – 23 years of service - from Canóvanas, PR. He is survived by his wife, two sons, and daughter.
1st Lt. David Albandoz – Co-Pilot – 16 years of service - from PR, recently residing in Madison, Alabama. He is survived by his wife and daughter.
Senior Master Sgt. Jan Paravisini – Mechanic – 21 years of service - from Canóvanas, PR. He is survived by two daughters and son.
Master Sgt. Jean Audriffred – 16 years of service - from Carolina, PR. He is survived by his wife and two sons.
Master Sgt. Mario Braña – Flight Engineer – 17 years of service - from Bayamón, PR. He is survived by his mother and daughter.
Master Sgt. Víctor Colón – 22 years of service - from Santa Isabel, PR. He is survived by his wife and two daughters.
Master Sgt. Eric Circuns – Loadmaster – 31 years of service - from Rio Grande, PR. He is survived by his wife, two step-daughters, and son.
Senior Airman Roberto Espada– three years of service - from Salinas, PR. He is survived by his grandmother.
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