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re: Mike Brown attempted to take officer's gun
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:10 am to ClientNumber9
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:10 am to ClientNumber9
I was using the word to reflect people who feel that they are outside the normal system of justice, but yes, typically the word specifically means taking away someone's right to vote.
I also wasn't referring to the rioters in particular, but poor people in general.
I also wasn't referring to the rioters in particular, but poor people in general.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:12 am to CAD703X
Chris Brown protesting violence
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:14 am to LSUballs
What ur asking me to believe is this guy smashed an officers face and tried to take his gun. Then after being shot, runs away only to turn around and start charging at the officer. That's what ur telling me with a straight face to believe.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:15 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What is Wilson's version? I would hope it is less vague. How far away? In what manner was he 'moving toward the officer?' Several witnesses, including the purported nearby construction workers, describe it as staggering toward him.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:17 am to RDRGeaux09
You can be completely ignorant of it for all I care. It's actual police training, and if proven that Mike charged him then his training will back him up and won't be indicted.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:18 am to tketaco
Look I laid out Wilson's story in my last post. Read it out loud to yourself and use some common sense.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:18 am to Speedy G
Do they also say he never confronted the officer in the vehicle and had his hands above his head when he was shot?
The guy in the video I posted said brown was continuing to move towards the officer and that he though the officer missed several times
The guy in the video I posted said brown was continuing to move towards the officer and that he though the officer missed several times
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:19 am to RDRGeaux09
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He was unarmed. He had no weapon that could cause the officer fatal harm on him. Once that fact was established its all on the officer.
He's the one with the gun therefore the burden falls on him.
Are you serious?
So someone can beat a cop because they are unarmed and not have any fear of being shot? You realize that it's entirely possible for someone to beat a cop, take his gun, and shoot him with it, right? Plus the cop didn't even know the guy was unarmed.
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He's the one with the gun therefore the burden falls on him.
This might be the dumbest comment made in this thread so far.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:22 am to RDRGeaux09
Me? I not telling you to believe anything pal. Couldn't give less of a shite about what you believe if I was paid to. If you want to side with stupidity go right ahead.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:23 am to LSUballs
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So the fact that the dude beat the cop's face in and tried to take his gun has no bearing on the cop shooting him?
It does until he surrenders. If in fact he surrendered. That's the question that has not been answered.
The cop would probably be justified in shooting him dead as he fled as a danger to the public (see Tennessee v. Garner). But, an officer cannot execute a suspect who does not pose a serious threat (such as someone surrendering or already in custody). Cop can only do what is necessary to arrest.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:23 am to upgrayedd
It hasn't been established that any injuries have occurred to the officer. There no hospital report nor any official report beyond an officer trying to save his arse.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:24 am to RDRGeaux09
I did and it's all gibberish. Not common sense. Sounds like a talking head on a cable news channel. Congratulations.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:25 am to The Third Leg
You, sir, are quite naive.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:25 am to LSUballs
Nothing about this officers story makes any sense to me as a black man.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:26 am to RDRGeaux09
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It hasn't been established that any injuries have occurred to the officer. There no hospital report nor any official report beyond an officer trying to save his arse.
It was reported he had a orbital blowout fracture. Which means his eye socket was broken in several places.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:28 am to RDRGeaux09
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It hasn't been established that any injuries have occurred to the officer. There no hospital report nor any official report beyond an officer trying to save his arse.
That has nothing to do with you saying that the one who possesses the weapon bears the burden.
I'm sure there is a hospital report and photos, but I agree that the FPD has done a shitty job of handling the facts in regards to the officer's injuries.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:28 am to Mrtommorrow1987
That report proved to be false, using a picture from some 2008 story.
Also if he reportedly had an orbital fracture, how could he have fired his weapon accurately hitting Mike Brown 6 times, including twice in the head from a distance.
Also if he reportedly had an orbital fracture, how could he have fired his weapon accurately hitting Mike Brown 6 times, including twice in the head from a distance.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:28 am to Panny Crickets
quote:
You, sir, are quite naive.
How so?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:30 am to RDRGeaux09
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Nothing about this officers story makes any sense to me as a black man.
Of course.
I forgot, all white folks are out to execute poor, innocent black kids who wouldn't hurt a fly.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:31 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:I don't think anyone has said that. Most reported seeing 'some sort of scuffle' or didn't witness that part.
Do they also say he never confronted the officer in the vehicle
quote:He was shot several times, so I guess yes (most have said his hands were up at some point), but not necessarily the fatal shot.
...and had his hands above his head when he was shot?
quote:Right, but how far away and in what manner. If slowly at a significant distance those shots are questionable. There is a lot of uncertainty over the last few crucial seconds.
The guy in the video I posted said brown was continuing to move towards the officer and that he though the officer missed several times
I think most have agreed that he fled then turned around, and everything up to that point was generally proper police procedure.
IMO, in recent years, police have shown an uncomfortable preference for shooting suspects (and dogs) dead instead of trying to take them into custody, so I can't help but wonder if that happened here.
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