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re: Might want to watch this video if you hog the left lane

Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:35 pm to
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if you're still passing people in the passing lane, then you're fine. It's not the fast lane. It's the passing lane. There is no asterisk for passing faster.


Except the guy driving 77 mph behind an air head driving 75 needs to pass.....but can't because some a-hole is hogging the passing lane and treating it as a "faster" lane.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:37 pm to
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Except the guy driving 77 mph behind an air head driving 75 needs to pass.....but can't because some a-hole is hogging the passing lane.



I understand the frustration and won't deny I don't feel the same way often. But technically, if the person at the very front of the bottle neck is still passing people in the right lane, then he/she is entitled to driving in the passing lane even at that speed.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:39 pm to
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in my experience, you're usually dealing with an anomaly driver if they want to go significantly faster than people who are even in the passing lane, who are still passing people in the right lane.


It's usually a lone car....which makes it so easy just to move over. It costs a few seconds to follow the rules here. You let him catch the speed radar up ahead and you get the faster traffic off of your bumper.

Slower traffic keep right. It's made relative intentionally. It doesn't mean "slower than you because 5mph over the limit is fast enough in your opinion"....it mean's "slower traffic".
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:41 pm to
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understand the frustration and won't deny I don't feel the same way often. But technically, if the person at the very front of the bottle neck is still passing people in the right lane, then he/she is entitled to driving in the passing lane and that speed.


all this.

if nobody is in front of me and I won't get stuck in the slow lane when people really don't want to drive fast but just tailgate I will get over to the right.

we have covered all these facets and I believe CAst4 and I are on the same page.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:42 pm to
Didn't read all 11 pages so may have been mentioned but the car has a pretty legit lawsuit against the truck driver.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33055 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:43 pm to
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But technically, if the person at the very front of the bottle neck is still passing people in the right lane, then he/she is entitled to driving in the passing lane and that speed.


No, they still have to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. Slower traffic keep right. They are clearly moving slower than the cars behind them.

At the first safe opportunity to do so, they should move right and allow the faster car behind them to pass them on the left.

quote:

when people really don't want to drive fast but just tailgate


You never know. It could be someone rushing to get to the hospital to see a sick relative, or some a-hole who just likes to drive fast.

Either way, the legal, courteous, and safe thing to do is to move right and let them pass. You have no idea if they are one of these impatient types that will endanger the whole road by riding your bumper until they actually do it. At that point the danger is already there.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:44 pm to
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It's usually a lone car....which makes it so easy just to move over. It costs a few seconds to follow the rules here. You let him catch the speed radar up ahead and you get the faster traffic off of your bumper.



I agree in a lot of cases. But I drive in the city a lot, and getting over in the slow lane is not so easy sometimes. And then it becomes a frickin' game to try and work your way back in the passing lane. Now I'm stuck behind Mertha who is doing 55 mph in a 70 and I can't get back in the passing lane. All because Truck Nutz wanted to go 90 mph.

Which is why I said I'll wait until there is a gap. I'm definitely not getting over immediately if it puts me behind a row of tractor trailers or something. I'll get around them, and let Truck Nutz over then. But that might take a sec. Truck Nutz can DWI.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:45 pm to
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No, they still have to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. Slower traffic keep right.


that would mean you are going at the speed of the folks in the right lane. If you're passing them, you are not "slower traffic".
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:45 pm to
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As an 8-10mph over speed limit driver, I'd probably be a little annoyed. But I wouldn't tailgate you, and nobody should

Agreed.

It is not a problem if you are traveling fast enough to pass other vehicles in a reasonable amount of time.
It becomes a problem when you decide to slow down just to block anyone from passing you, then speeding up when there is a gap between right lane vehicles so that no one can get around you. I pass then move to the right lane. Move back left when needed and then back right again.
Most cops radar the left lanes of traffic. Use the right lane to block the radar for you.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:46 pm to
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It is not a problem if you are traveling fast enough to pass other vehicles in a reasonable amount of time.
It becomes a problem when you decide to slow down just to block anyone from passing you, then speeding up when there is a gap between right lane vehicles so that no one can get around you. I pass then move to the right lane. Move back left when needed and then back right again.
Most cops radar the left lanes of traffic. Use the right lane to block the radar for you.


agreed
Posted by GatorBaiter
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:46 pm to
Wow, the driver of that truck deserves prison time. Neither was right, but only one of them tried to kill someone because they were pissed off.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33055 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:47 pm to
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. But I drive in the city a lot, and getting over in the slow lane is not so easy sometimes.


Oh yeah, driving around at rush hour in Baton Rouge makes it hard to do any of this. You have left hand exits and a functionally obsolete highway. At that point just go with the lane that actually moves and try not to hold traffic up.

In those heavy traffic/crawling situations....the lane usage rule most drivers forget is zipper merging.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65191 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:48 pm to
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No, they still have to adhere to the same rules as everyone else


how about the "speed limit"

that trumps all other "ethical laws"
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:49 pm to
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At the first safe opportunity to do so, they should move right and allow the faster car behind them to pass them on the left.


Is this the part where we quibble about the definition of "safe?" Because if so, I'm gonna definite it as the first large section of road on the right that allows me to slide over into a section that will not force me to be tailgating the car in front of me just so the guy behind me can pass the same cars I was passing...but faster.

Or must a passing car slide over into a space just large enough to fit the car even if it means he's then tailgating the car in front of him and forced the car now behind him to tailgate him?
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:49 pm to
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both were definitely assholes. Red car looked like he intentionally slowed way down to piss of the truck. That's a complete dick move.

That is all we saw in the video. How do you know the truck did not do the same brake check to car a mile before?
Either way both were being jerks.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:49 pm to
I forgot about left lane exits. What a terrible idea.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:49 pm to
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But technically, if the person at the very front of the bottle neck is still passing people in the right lane, then he/she is entitled to driving in the passing lane even at that speed.


I often see people passing a car, and then staying in the left lane because there is a semi truck about half a mile away in the right lane. They would have plenty of time to swing over, let the guy behind them pass, and then get back over to pass the truck without ever needing to change their speed. This gets exacerbated by a line of cars behind them, and they decide they don't want to get over and get stuck behind the truck while the other cars pass.

Another problem I run into is someone passing a semi, and only going 1-2 mph faster than the truck. I often have to pull back so as to not sit in the trucks blind spot while the guy pokes on by. Sheepish drivers tend to be very inefficient at passing because they are scared to be caught speeding, but frankly they are often causing a much more dangerous scenario.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33055 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:49 pm to
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that would mean you are going at the speed of the folks in the right lane. If you're passing them, you are not "slower traffic".


No, you would just be slower traffic that happens to be in the passing lane.

Slower traffic isn't relative to you. It's relative to the other cars around you. You may be moving slightly faster than the cars to the right, but the cars behind you are moving faster than you. Spend too much time camping out there, and they'll have to slow down or pass you on the right to avoid a bottleneck.

If someone has enough space to move right, pass you, then move back left.....you should not be in the passing lane. Everyone should gravitate to the right lane when there's available space to do so.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138173 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:50 pm to
Ever been in a huge traffic jam and rode your car on the shoulder with the flow of traffic? The total jerk that like to pull the should pass lose their freaking minds.

For the record, i have only pulled that move in a rental.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:51 pm to
dude, you're an a-hole for following the law and not allowing Truck Nutz Argonaut to blow by all the slowsies on the interstate when he's on his way to "work"
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