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Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm to Bmath
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Another problem I run into is someone passing a semi, and only going 1-2 mph faster than the truck.
This pushes a bottleneck behind them and causes traffic to get a lot closer together.
This is why trucks should be limited to the right lane only on 4 lane rural freeways with any kind of traffic or on freeways with any kind of incline. They'll run along side each other and when they start going up hill, they slow down 5-10 mph and create a bottleneck. They have no problems doing this in heavy rain or fog either.
Louisiana is widening I-10 and I-12 in sections to 6 lanes (3 in each direction), so progress is happening. In those cases, trucks should not be allowed in the far left lane.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm to member12
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black female
Worst most unaware of their surroundings drivers on the road. Bar none.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm to member12
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If someone has enough space to move right, pass you, then move back left.....you should not be in the passing lane. Everyone should gravitate to the right lane when there's available space to do so.
Could you define available space? Keep in mind, we're talking interstate speeds.
I'm thinking your definition and mine are gonna differ, which is where the idea of simply "moving over" is running into problems.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:55 pm to Bmath
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I often see people passing a car, and then staying in the left lane because there is a semi truck about half a mile away in the right lane. They would have plenty of time to swing over, let the guy behind them pass, and then get back over to pass the truck without ever needing to change their speed. This gets exacerbated by a line of cars behind them, and they decide they don't want to get over and get stuck behind the truck while the other cars pass.
I think this goes to member's point in that if you aren't needing to pass, then you should stay in the right lane. If enough road is available, you should gravitate towards the right lane and then merge left if you need to pass.
But in the city, this is rarely the case. Semis are in the right lane, going 10 mph under the speed limit. You kind of have to pick your lane and speed with the flow of traffic.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:56 pm to xxKylexx
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One of my biggest pet peeves is people who coast in the left lane. I literally cannot stand those assholes who don't know the left lane is for passing, with that said, that's pretty fricked up.
people don't know that it is a state law to only use the left lane for passing.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:58 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I mentioned your scenario earlier. It's dangerous to get over and hit your brakes and reduce speed by 10-15 mph suddenly. Those poor souls in the slow lane are there for a reason, they are timid drivers. I'm not getting over and fricking with their flow just so Mr. Heavy Foot can do 90 mph. That's dangerous.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:59 pm to cas4t
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but you're passing, in the passing lane.
Just because you are in the passing lane doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility to follow the "slower traffic keep right" rule or proper lane usage.
The slower traffic could be you. If there's a car rapidly approaching you while you are camping out in the passing lane, then you are the slower traffic. Move right and let the faster traffic pass. When they are clear, continue on your merry way inching by cars going 2-3mph slower than you.
There's no justification for not moving over when there's adequate space to do so. It's safer, courteous, and your responsibility as a driver.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:00 pm to member12
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the lane usage rule most drivers forget is zipper merging.
Zipper merging has to be one of the leading causes of road rage for idiots that don't understand how to do it. It turns into a game of chicken with people dead set on not giving up "their" spot.
The problem I do have with it is people merging west bound from College Drive and coming to a stop and blocking me from getting off efficiently at Acadian.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:00 pm to meauxjeaux2
I've dreamed of doing this so many times!
I find that I-12 is bad about left lane cruisers. Especially the stretch between Mandeville and Hammond.
I find that I-12 is bad about left lane cruisers. Especially the stretch between Mandeville and Hammond.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:03 pm to member12
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Just because you are in the passing lane doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility to follow the "slower traffic keep right" rule or proper lane usage.
literally in TN the law is left lane is for passing. I do not recall any signs that say slow traffic keep right.
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Termed the "slow poke law," Howell's bill would make it illegal for anyone to drive in the passing lane of a highway unless that person is actually passing another vehicle. There are plenty of exceptions and caveats: The road would have to be a three-lane highway, and the law would apply only when weather and traffic permitted.
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if you're passing people in the slow lane, you are by law entitled to be in the passing lane, point blank. If you're moving at the same rate of speed as the slow lane, but are in the passing lane, you can be pulled over and ticketed.
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The slower traffic could be you. If there's a car rapidly approaching you while you are camping out in the passing lane, then you are the slower traffic.
you're not camping out in the passing lane if you are passing people
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:03 pm to Bmath
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Zipper merging has to be one of the leading causes of road rage for idiots that don't understand how to do it. It turns into a game of chicken with people dead set on not giving up "their" spot.
It's pretty bad. It's a rule a lot of people ignore or forget especially when lanes narrow for construction or just generally stupid designs (both of which are common in Baton Rouge).
Whatever lane you are in, stay there as long as possible. If you need to move, do so at the merge point. If you don't need to move, let one car in at the merge point. Letting more than one car in slows down your lane. Refusing to let any car in is slowing down the other.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:06 pm to member12
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There's no justification for not moving over when there's adequate space to do so.
Can we get a definition of what you consider to be adequate space at interstate speeds?
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:06 pm to cas4t
You're pissing in the wind with this bunch.
They don't realize that following too closely is the cause of these wrecks. It's not the slower driver, it's the tailgater that causes the wreck.
Hell, the other day I had an 18-wheeler flash his lights at me while I was in the right-hand lane. I guess the son of a bitch wanted me to break the speed limit so he could roll his Mexican wares onward to Louisiana... that, or take to the ditch.
You driving duckers and dodgers need to put down your goddamn phone and pass when there's opportunity. Trust me, there's plenty of opportunity. Don't wait until all lanes are blocked before you pull your head out of your arse.
They don't realize that following too closely is the cause of these wrecks. It's not the slower driver, it's the tailgater that causes the wreck.
Hell, the other day I had an 18-wheeler flash his lights at me while I was in the right-hand lane. I guess the son of a bitch wanted me to break the speed limit so he could roll his Mexican wares onward to Louisiana... that, or take to the ditch.
You driving duckers and dodgers need to put down your goddamn phone and pass when there's opportunity. Trust me, there's plenty of opportunity. Don't wait until all lanes are blocked before you pull your head out of your arse.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:06 pm to meauxjeaux2
Usually just getting behind them and flashing lights or honking horns non stop will do the trick.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:09 pm to member12
That is actually untrue. Zipper merging has been proven to keep traffic flow. I hate t too, and think those people are asshoels, but it blew my mind when I read the study a few weeks ago. I'll try to find it. I think someone brought it up on the SECr off topic board.
found it
If roads are clear enough that everyone is already driving close to the speed limit, zipper merging isn't as effective, but in the case of congestion, Johnson said that this method reduces backups by a whopping 40 percent on average, since both lanes approach the merge with equal stake in maintaining speed. "When the queue backup is reduced, the access points behind a work zone, like signals or ways to get on and off the freeway, those aren’t blocked," Johnson pointed out. "People have a better opportunity to get off or on the system at that point.
found it
If roads are clear enough that everyone is already driving close to the speed limit, zipper merging isn't as effective, but in the case of congestion, Johnson said that this method reduces backups by a whopping 40 percent on average, since both lanes approach the merge with equal stake in maintaining speed. "When the queue backup is reduced, the access points behind a work zone, like signals or ways to get on and off the freeway, those aren’t blocked," Johnson pointed out. "People have a better opportunity to get off or on the system at that point.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:11 pm to cas4t
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you're not camping out in the passing lane if you are passing people
You are camping out in the left lane if you are hindering traffic and not moving over when there's space to do so. The most egregious offenders actually have people passing them on the right.
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literally in TN the law is left lane is for passing. I do not recall any signs that say slow traffic keep right.
No state requires you to speed up when faster traffic approaches you from behind. Most states require you to move right when you are done passing.
Starting this year in Tennessee, drivers have to yield to faster traffic in the left lane.
Doing that keeps slower traffic like you safe and allows cops to generate more revenue by clocking speeders. It's a win win for everyone. This is where the problems occur...when drivers moving barely faster than the right lane don't move over because they see another car a quarter to a half mile up the road that they'll pass eventually. Faster traffic behind them compresses (creating a dangerous situation for everyone) and often has to move around on the right to get around the camper (which is also dangerous for everyone).
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:12 pm to cas4t
Similar incident happened at the grocery store


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