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re: Might want to watch this video if you hog the left lane
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:14 pm to member12
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:14 pm to member12
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You are camping out in the left lane if you are hindering traffic and not moving over when there's space to do so.
this is just not true, as defined by the brand new law from March 2016 in my state, Tennessee. I suggest you look up yours.
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No state requires you to speed up when faster traffic approaches you from behind. Most states require you to move right when you are done passing.
The slow poke law in TN simply states that the left lane is for passing, and if you're not passing, you can be ticketed. The link to the bill is within the link I provided.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:22 pm
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:15 pm to member12
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You are camping out in the left lane if you are hindering traffic and not moving over when there's space to do so.
What does this mean...to you...at interstate speeds?
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:17 pm to member12
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Doing that keeps slower traffic like you safe and allows cops to generate more revenue by clocking speeders. It's a win win for everyone. This is where the problems occur...when drivers moving barely faster than the right lane don't move over because they see another car a quarter to a half mile up the road that they'll pass eventually. Faster traffic behind them compresses (creating a dangerous situation for everyone) and often has to move around on the right to get around the camper (which is also dangerous for everyone).
I don't know where you are getting your information, other than your own opinion, which I do not disagree with for the most part. I'm just telling you that TN law is plain as day. If you are passing people, you are allowed to be in the passing lane. That is where the law ends and begins. The state is not catering to drivers who want to drive at excessive speeds. They are simply trying to make the passing lane for passing only.
Now, you are correct that state law requires you to merge to the right lane if there are no cars to pass. because the left lane is the passing lane. Not the fast lane.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:17 pm to cas4t
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Zipper merging has been proven to keep traffic flow.
It works great. They taught it in Driver's ed 15 years ago and apparently haven't since.
No one knows how to zipper merge, and doing exactly what you are supposed to do is going to piss off people apparently.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:18 pm to cas4t
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found it
I like this quote: "Well, it actually lets traffic flow if you can let folks in. Play nice. Treat traffic like a team sport. You gotta play the assist role. It's gonna help lessen the backups."
Everyone on the road is just trying to get somewhere. A lot of people drive with a sense of entitlement to their spot in traffic. When you see a turn signal then speed up or slow down in a safe way to make room.
If everyone would drive more efficiently and conscientiously it would make traffic much smoother. I think a lot of people are taught defensive driving and think it means to hold your position at all costs instead of simply being aware and proactive of the situation around you on the road.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:18 pm to member12
I think most people just see an a-hole flying by everyone and hitting their blinker late, when they've been waiting in line for a while. I get it. But it is certainly more effective.
My apologies if I misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you were saying you hated drivers who attempted to zipper merge.
My apologies if I misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you were saying you hated drivers who attempted to zipper merge.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:19 pm to cas4t
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I'm just telling you that TN law is plain as day. If you are passing people, you are allowed to be in the passing lane.
When you are passing someone being the key words there. I don't think we actually disagree with each other. I'm just pointing out that passing a car, then refusing to move right when you are done as faster traffic approaches from behind is definitely unsafe and likely illegal in most states.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:20 pm to Bmath
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I like this quote: "Well, it actually lets traffic flow if you can let folks in. Play nice. Treat traffic like a team sport. You gotta play the assist role. It's gonna help lessen the backups."
which goes to my point about not immediately getting over. It causes the right lane to back up. You have to have some open road before getting over. Dropping your speed by 15 mph and getting over in the right lane is unsafe.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:21 pm to member12
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When you are passing someone being the key words there. I don't think we actually disagree with each other. I'm just pointing out that passing a car, then refusing to move right when you are done as faster traffic approaches from behind is definitely unsafe and likely illegal in most states.
for sure. I agreed with someone earlier that you should generally gravitate to the right lane if there isn't a car to pass.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:21 pm to cas4t
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You are camping out in the left lane if you are hindering traffic and not moving over when there's space to do so.
this is just not true, as defined by the brand new law from March 2016 in my state, Tennessee. I suggest you look up yours. Between this opinion and your outlook on zipper merging, you seem to be shooting from the hip, albeit inaccurately.
If there's adequate space to safely move over to the right, how can you possibly be passing someone on the right?
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:23 pm to WalkingTurtles
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Usually just getting behind them and flashing lights or honking horns non stop will do the trick.
I just crank up the radio and tilt all mirrors so I can't see you anymore.
its like magic, you dissappear from my cares.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:23 pm to member12
I edited that comment since I misunderstood your view on zipper merging.
But I'd say that depends on your view of adequate space. A car length? 2 car length? Congested traffic? How much will I have to slow down to get in the right lane and how will that affect the driver I'll be merging in front of in the right lane? It's case by case.
But I'd say that depends on your view of adequate space. A car length? 2 car length? Congested traffic? How much will I have to slow down to get in the right lane and how will that affect the driver I'll be merging in front of in the right lane? It's case by case.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:24 pm to member12
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If there's adequate space to safely move over to the right, how can you possibly be passing someone on the right?
Will you define this...pretty please with a cherry on top?
As I have other things to do, can you at least let me know if you plan to answer this question at some point or never...'because I'd like to move on to something else.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:25 pm to meauxjeaux2
Move bitch. Get out the way.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:25 pm to cas4t
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which goes to my point about not immediately getting over. It causes the right lane to back up. You have to have some open road before getting over. Dropping your speed by 15 mph and getting over in the right lane is unsafe.
I fully support zipper merging. In the article you linked they mentioned that MN had a big ad campaign to promote it. They really need to do that here. They should also create a new road sign for around construction and other pinch points to remind people.
It really is a human nature thing for the people that merged early to feel like the cars in the other lane are just trying to cut. They don't realize by not letting people in down the line they are actually causing the traffic to worsen.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:25 pm to cas4t
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But I'd say that depends on your view of adequate space.
Good luck with this...
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:26 pm to meauxjeaux2
I'm pretty sure that car had Texas plates.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:26 pm to GeauxTigerTM
IMO, I will need 2-3 car lengths for it to make sense, unless the right lane flow of traffic is going significantly slower than me and the rest of the passers. If I have tor educe my speed by 10-15 mph, it's unsafe to do that, and I'm going to get around a few cars and try to find some open road before getting over.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:27 pm to cas4t
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Truck Nutz Argonaut
I don't know what that means, but I don't have a truck. I usually ride when it isn't raining or freezing. I go the speed limit because I have no interest in my body being disbursed all over I-95. I also don't tailgate because I'm confident I'd lose every time.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:27 pm to cas4t
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How much will I have to slow down to get in the right lane and how will that affect the driver I'll be merging in front of in the right lane? It's case by case.
Of course it's case by case. If there's one lone a-hole that wants to drive 20 over the limit or beyond, it should only take a second or two to let him pass. If you are doing this right, you are not hitting the brakes to move right and he's not passing you on the right. 2-3 car lengths is usually adequate.
All drivers should be mindful of moving more than 20 mph faster than the adjacent lane though. There's just too much potential for a car in the slower lane to step out in front of a much faster car. Most cars and drivers won't accelerate from 40-60 or 50-70 in less than 4 seconds.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 1:31 pm
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