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re: Michigan: Mom accidentally locks 2 month old in car; 911 dispatcher refuses to send help
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:16 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:16 am to LNCHBOX
Well you failed to do that given that you jumped forward however many years and two superbowl victories, including the greatest ever comeback against ATL, which changes the situation.
Brady was already the established GOAT going into last years superbowl. Against the Seahawks he hadn't won one in what, like a decade and would have been on a three straight losing streak, overall record of 3-3. Perception would have been vastly different with a loss despite him doing the exact same thing.
But this is a dumb argument, lets forget this. An easier example related to a mistake / crime.
Someone drives drunk and gets in a wreck, but everyone has seat belts and nobody hurt - big mistake clearly but not "unforgivable".
Exact same wreck / scenario but person in other car is not wearing seatbelt, gets thrown from car and dies. Gonna make it a lot tougher to forgive that person.
Drunk driver did the exact same thing in both situations, but the results change the perception making one worse than the other. This is a pretty simple and innate concept which I don't understand why you are arguing honestly.
Brady was already the established GOAT going into last years superbowl. Against the Seahawks he hadn't won one in what, like a decade and would have been on a three straight losing streak, overall record of 3-3. Perception would have been vastly different with a loss despite him doing the exact same thing.
But this is a dumb argument, lets forget this. An easier example related to a mistake / crime.
Someone drives drunk and gets in a wreck, but everyone has seat belts and nobody hurt - big mistake clearly but not "unforgivable".
Exact same wreck / scenario but person in other car is not wearing seatbelt, gets thrown from car and dies. Gonna make it a lot tougher to forgive that person.
Drunk driver did the exact same thing in both situations, but the results change the perception making one worse than the other. This is a pretty simple and innate concept which I don't understand why you are arguing honestly.
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:16 am to Salmon
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It means you need some serious self reflection.
I don't though. We do different things on this site.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:16 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Well you failed to do that given that you jumped forward however many years and two superbowl victories, including the greatest ever comeback against ATL, which changes the situation.
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But this is a dumb argument
Obviously
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:17 am to Salmon
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Salmon
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Be a goddamn parent.
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but I just have a problem with people being too reliant on others.
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She didn't need help. She just needed to reevaluate
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do I think I could get my daughter out of a locked car without a window breaker? if so, then absolutely
quote:So are you saying after reading all these quotes by you, we arent suppsoed to take this as you saying the mother didnt handle this well and you would have done better?
It has nothing to do with what I'm capable of. It is what a motivated parent is capable of. Adrenaline is a powerful thing.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:17 am to PrivatePublic
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The child got sweaty? The horror of it all.
Oooh, mister tough guy. I bet your fat troll arse couldn't handle summer time car temps either. Go back to flipping burgers you lowlife piece of shite.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:18 am to lsupride87
I'm honestly surprised you didn't post actual screen grabs
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:18 am to LNCHBOX
to quote yourself
"another emoji that is completely out of place"
"another emoji that is completely out of place"
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:19 am to Sneaky__Sally
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to quote yourself
"another emoji that is completely out of place"
But it's exactly where it should be. What you're saying is hilarious.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:19 am to LNCHBOX
what part exactly?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:20 am to Sneaky__Sally
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what part exactly?
All of it. This dispatcher is not comparable to Tom Brady. I'm not taking it any further than that.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
congrats, OT. you've found a thread worthy of unseating the 'big lee estate sale'
well done.
well done.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
well seeing as I didn't make said comparison, we agree.
Tom Brady was simple used as an example of how results can change perception.
Tom Brady was simple used as an example of how results can change perception.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:22 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Someone drives drunk and gets in a wreck, but everyone has seat belts and nobody hurt - big mistake clearly but not "unforgivable".
Exact same wreck / scenario but person in other car is not wearing seatbelt, gets thrown from car and dies. Gonna make it a lot tougher to forgive that person.
A more apt analogy would be if the driver in each scenario was doing this in the line of duty, like the 911 dispatcher was. In this case the driver would most certainly lose his job as should the 911 dispatcher.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:23 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Tom Brady was simple used as an example of how results can change perception.
The result here is a PR nightmare for the emergency services due to this dispatcher's incompetence. People have been fired for much less. I'm not calling for her head, but her being fired is perfectly acceptable to me.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:26 am to slackster
I haven’t read this whole thread but that dispatcher really needs to be fired. Police and Fire do not respond to someone just locking their keys in their car, that’s pop-a-locks job. But if you call 911 and say that a child is locked in a car you better believe they’re coming with a sense of urgency, especially if the car is not running. I’ve been on a quite a few of these calls. Even if you do get the child out before help arrives it’s still not a bad idea to have someone there to evaluate the child, just because we show up doesn’t mean you have to be transported. Call right away and we can get there within a few minutes and unlock the door without breaking a window. We always have a sense of urgency but if it’s a call involving an infant or child we step it up a notch, especially those with kids of their own.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:28 am to LNCHBOX
I agree, if they decide to fire her they certainly have every right to and I wouldn't question it. I was just asking someone who felt that she had to be fired, why she couldn't just be trained - which appears to be the approach they decided to take based on the original story.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:29 am to Sneaky__Sally
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hy she couldn't just be trained - which appears to be the approach they decided to take based on the original story.
She hasn't been back at work since the incident...
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:31 am to LNCHBOX
Well she hasn't been fired yet and they noted "disciplinary action" and adjustments to training - i made an assumption.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:40 am to TBass82
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I haven’t read this whole thread
You should.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:40 am to GetCocky11
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The chief said there will be additional training so dispatchers know how to handle these calls in the future.
Does this situation really require training? Seems more like common sense to me
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