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re: Michigan: Mom accidentally locks 2 month old in car; 911 dispatcher refuses to send help
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:49 am to tiger114
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:49 am to tiger114
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It took her 10-12 minutes to break into a car to save her baby???
Apparently breaking a window is harder than getting into Ft.Knox
Says the OT
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:51 am to stapuffmarshy
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Even for the OT, there is a pretty overwhelming amount of stupidity taking place in this thread.
Nah until the actual transcript showed.
All bets are off after that. Clearly the woman should be fired.
Why so they can hire another person of similar intelligence? The said they are updating their training protocols to address this issue so dispatchers know how to respond. Why can't we just train this person, why does she have to be fired?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:52 am to Salmon
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She did this before EMS would have arrived, most likely. People are too quick to call 911. Break the fricking window. Be a goddamn parent.
She did both.
The OT still thinks she didn't do enough. Never change.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:52 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Why can't we just train this person, why does she have to be fired?
With this logic, why fire anyone ever?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:54 am to slackster
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The OT still thinks she didn't do enough. Never change.
Nobody said this.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:55 am to LNCHBOX
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With this logic, why fire anyone ever
She was a veteran of the dispatcher crew as well.
A timely retirement with full benefits, lifetime healthcare and a robust 401k retirement package is a fair sendoff for this shining example of hard work and tenacity to help peoples
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:55 am to Salmon
quote:You criticized her for being over-reliant on 911 and not handling it on her own without calling them.
Nobody said this.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:57 am to tiger114
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It took her 10-12 minutes to break into a car to save her baby???
This is someone with incrediblely low problem-solving skills.
Have you ever busted out a car window? If you don’t know what you’re doing, especially if you’re a woman, it’s not that easy.
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:58 am to Deactived
Very true. I get into my car after work and I have a sun visor up and it feels like a sauna for several minutes as the air on full blast kicks in to cool down. 12 minutes of that would give me quite the sweat.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:58 am to LNCHBOX
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Why can't we just train this person, why does she have to be fired?
With this logic, why fire anyone ever?
Malicious intent, ignoring established training, multiple offenses, sexual harrassment, beating off on the job, punching your boss, i mean the list is long.
We aren't talking about management here - for all we know this person is in their first week on the job.
If they are updating their training - it seems that there was a gap where this wasn't covered. Now she certainly fricked this up royally - but its not like they are going to be getting the best and brightest and if the training says "we don't unlock cars" with no caveat of endangered persons. Even if she made a mistake, that is how people learn.
People learn by mistakes, hard to do that if they get fired every time though.
ETA: Someone said she was a veteran, if that is true its a bit different. I'm not going to call for her head but i just find the movement of calling for peoples jobs at every corner to be foolish.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:59 am to Sneaky__Sally
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People learn by mistakes, hard to do that if they get fired every time though.
Some mistakes are bigger than others. Are you related to this dispatcher or something?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:02 am to upgrayedd
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This is almost akin to medicaid deadbeats clogging up the ER for a headache.
The OT is extra shitty this morning.
This woman did exactly what you should do. Grandmother called 911 because they're having trouble getting into the car. The mother never stopped trying to get into the car. The child was in the car for 12 minutes and could have easily overheated during that time frame, requiring emergency care even if she's removed by her mother.
I can't find a flaw in their behavior or reasoning whatsoever.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:02 am to LNCHBOX
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You criticized her for being over-reliant on 911 and not handling it on her own without calling them.
No. I initially criticized her for immediately calling 911 and then complaining to the media when 911 didn't respond.
I then re-evaluated that opinion once reading the transcript.
I gave her praise for handling it on her own though.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:02 am to JETigER
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this mother is living the American dream.
the American dream is to become a victim, but not too much of a victim.
a gem in this shite fest thread.Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:03 am to Salmon
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No. I initially criticized her for immediately calling 911 and then complaining to the media when 911 didn't respond.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:03 am to LNCHBOX
Nope
The baby didn't die so this isn't an unforgivable mistake.
Results dictate perception and outcome in this world. Just look at the NFL - What is the Narrative on Tom Brady if Butler doesn't make that pick they lose to the Seahwaks - certainly not GOAT even though he would have made the exact same plays...
The baby didn't die so this isn't an unforgivable mistake.
Results dictate perception and outcome in this world. Just look at the NFL - What is the Narrative on Tom Brady if Butler doesn't make that pick they lose to the Seahwaks - certainly not GOAT even though he would have made the exact same plays...
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:04 am to stapuffmarshy
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pparently breaking a window is harder than getting into Ft.Knox
Says the OT
its not as easy as you think. maybe for those who have a glass-breaker tool but as a matter of course, car windows are pretty damn strong esp. if you're a woman.
eta and the poor woman was under duress. laugh at her all you want but her 2yo was trapped in the car and she was flipping out.
understandable except in the heartless world of the OT who never ever make mistakes and keep 17 spare keys in magnetic boxes under their cars so they are always perfect, self-reliant and scoff at ever needing 911.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:04 am to LNCHBOX
Sorry everyone isn't perfect like you, lnch.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:06 am to Darth_Vader
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Have you ever busted out a car window?
Everyone criticizing in here could have done better, apparently.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:06 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Just look at the NFL - What is the Narrative on Tom Brady if Butler doesn't make that pick they lose to the Seahwaks - certainly not GOAT even though he would have made the exact same plays...
Wut? They lost the Superbowl last year and many people still say he is amazing because of his performance in that game. What an absurd comparison.
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