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re: Memphis PD bodycam of Tyre Nichols released

Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:46 am to
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:46 am to
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Good Lord the amount of victim blaming in this thread and it’s all from small government dudes, funny how quickly y’all are to jump to lick the boot and defend the government killing people when it suits your warped narrative


Hard to be for small government while also supporting a police state.

These people are cementheads.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:47 am to
not replying to you wawa


some of you need to take the time to go back and read the thread, there are answers and info to pretty much everything some of you are wondering and or misinterpreting about this situation

these five cops are part of a special detail called Scorpion
they are no doubt close knit
they are NOT typical MPD patrol officers, so pulling nichols over for a traffic violation is not really part of their unit focus

they said he was driving recklessly, MPD Chief said there was no evidence of this from traffic cameras

the cop who ran up to the car and opened the door did so with no fear of a gun, did not ask for ID, did not try to identify the driver, and called the driver a bitch. like he knew who he was. they pulled Nichols over about 250 feet from his home

I said earlier shouting “give me your hands” repeatedly while beating on him seemed like cover for the bodycams

if these cops knew nichols and targeted him, it will come out on their cellphones and witness statements. if they didnt know him, then this is a total and complete breakdown in police procedures and ethics

it seems to me like they really wanted to hurt this guy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:49 am to
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Hard to be for small government while also supporting a police state.


Its hard to be big govt and want to defund police.

Big gov, more laws require more compliance officers. IRS, FBI, DOJ too.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:49 am to
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You are confusing uvalde with inner city crime and inner city policing. Two completely different problems. You solve school shootings by hardening schools. They are soft targets right now.


I’m pointing out that funding and more bodies does not always magically fix what are often systemic issues that lead to bad policing.

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In Memphis, the police department’s budget has increased 11.2% since 2017, compared to 7% for the entire city budget. In 2017, MPD’s budget amounted to 38% of the City of Memphis budget. Today, it is 40%.

While protesters call for the “defunding of the police,” the proposed budget for MPD increased from $272.8 million in the current adopted budget to $282.1 million in the proposed budget.






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Memphis Mayor Jim Strickland unveiled a combined 10% pay raise for Memphis police officers over two years during his budget speech Tuesday afternoon.


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"The MPA is very pleased with a 10% raise over the next two years. We have no doubt that this will have an immediate positive impact on recruitment and retention. Given the fierce competition for applicants, we simply couldn’t afford to trail 8% behind the highest-paid local agency," John Covington, the chief steward for the MPA said. "What was needed was a surge to put us back on top and that’s what we got with this raise. It is an important step toward turbo-charging recruitment and retention that needed to be taken."


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Mayor Jim Strickland’s assertion that more police officers leads to less crime. Memphis has been awarded a $160 million grant, and Strickland said last month his ideas for the funds include hiring new police officers, youth programs and violence interrupters, according to The Commercial Appeal.


I’m saying that what we do with that money is important. At least if the goal is to thread the needle of ensuring a well staffed police force that successfully serves and protects its citizenry, while not brutalizing that same citizenry via hiring and enabling Jack booted thugs that will kill innocent people, or stand by and let children be slaughtered.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:50 am to
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You are telling me we misunderstood “defund the police” and it actually meant “provide more funding to police” Yes

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:50 am to
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I said earlier shouting “give me your hands” repeatedly while beating on him seemed like cover for the bodycams


There's definitely acting for the cameras.

It's part of the training so many claim they need more of.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:51 am to
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Those cops were amped like crazy.

I think they may have been high on something. See how that works?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51391 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:51 am to
It weirdly reminds me of this video of Trump voters protesting something in the streets and dancing to music while wearing thin blue line flags. The funny thing was that the song was Killing In The Name by Rage Against the Machine, it just shows that a lot of people don’t really pay attention to shite they just see what their side is taking on issues and immediately follow that line of thinking
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:52 am to
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As an example, the Uvalde police department and the surrounding city comprised nearly 40% of the city budget on top of separate general funds to fund a school district specific department too, the department was also the recipient of state level injections of cash to further beef up departments, they were a part of federal programs that got military hardware to local departments, and they had just completed active shooter training that year.


this is because of the demands on UPD because of the town’s proximity to the border and the drug crimes committed by illegals passing through the area
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21934 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:52 am to
Defund the police literally meant defund the police and institute “community policing” with counselors and other bullshite.

You’re only changing the definition because it failed spectacularly and those cities had to increase funding after they slashed it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293863 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:55 am to
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I’m pointing out that funding and more bodies does not always magically fix what are often systemic issues that lead to bad policing.


Same with the education system.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71187 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Something is super sketchy about this case. All of these officers were apart of a specialized unit called SCORPION

Street Crimes Operation to Restore Peace in Our Neighborhoods

SCORPION officers would focus on auto thefts, gang-related crimes and drug-related crimes.

Why was this crew even stopping this guy? He had no criminal record. His license plate would have been clean, yet they all rolled up on him like he was Tony Montana.

I’m starting to wonder about the speculation that they knew and targeted this guy.

I have a theory that doesn't really involve Nichols messing around with a cop's wife. The guy was a skater who hung around at skate parks and likely ran the streets to a degree (not in a bad way, just as a skater).

The cops were part of a unit dealing with drugs and street/gang violence.

What are the chances that Nichols saw or knew something was going on, or tried to report criminal activity, and these cops were actually dirty? They could have caught him out and decided to tune him up a bit, but winded up killing him.

That's my theory that means absolutely nothing.

The more I read about Nichols, the less I believe this had to do with him carrying out an affair. That doesn't mean there couldn't have been some other personal conflict.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119465 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:36 pm to
What are you even arguing in this thread?
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Quit blaming their behavior on "poor" training.


Their behavior is part of the poor training. You can’t be this dense?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:41 pm to
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Their behavior is part of the poor training. You can’t be this dense?


Are you enough of a low IQ Neanderthal that you need to be trained to not beat someone to death? That throwing haymakers on a restrained guy is out of line. That kicking a dude in the head repeatedly is not acceptable behavior?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:42 pm to
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But the statement in 2020 was just thing to paint the police as bad guys. It wasn’t get better police. It wasn’t training the police better. It was defunding. It’s revisionist history because people realized that it wasn’t popular outside of their focus groups.


The cocksuckers will never admit it.

I’m not talking about what this one poster on TD means by defund the police. I’m talking about what the media narrative and talking points were. It was definitely to decrease support and funding for police.

Police officers heard that loud and clear and that’s why they left in droves. They didn’t give a shite about what nuanced discussion this TD poster was having around his dinner table when senators and mayors are talking about defunding the police.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293863 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:42 pm to
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You’re only changing the definition because it failed spectacularly


His view of the world flows through reddit.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Would it make you all giddy if some college frat kid running cops around in circles on the beach during spring break for underage drinking got handcuffed and pummeled to death?



"Comply or die" is the bootlickers mantra so it better.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119465 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:43 pm to
Dawg is a clown college kid who donates to Bernie
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12436 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:44 pm to
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The more I read about Nichols, the less I believe this had to do with him carrying out an affair. That doesn't mean there couldn't have been some other personal conflict.


Though the funny thing about affairs is sometimes only one party knows. So you can’t always judge wou would be on the other side of one.

Not implying it’s the case here but have seen similar logic a few times
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