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re: Medical experts say it's impossible for person to break own spine in back of van
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:11 am to Hammertime
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:11 am to Hammertime
All of this. He obviously didn't want to die, but don't doubt for one second he wouldn't have tried roughing himself up a bit to get a police brutality case.
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Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:11 am to Bench McElroy
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Medical experts say it's impossible for person to break own spine in back of van
Per Dr. Oz
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:11 am to Bench McElroy
I'm a physician and I don't buy this. I'm not picking sides of this narrative but it's quite possible to break one's neck with a relatively minimal impact. My aunt suffered a ground level fall at a restaurant and hit her neck on a concrete tire stop and suffered a severe cervical spinal cord injury that has left her a virtual quadriplegic. This happened a year ago and she still hasn't regained much function in her hands and certainly cannot walk.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:13 am to MSUbulldogs03
oh, yeah. I get that part. I was thinking you meant extra strong. Carry on.
Those heroin junkies will scratch their skin off bleeding and not even notice.
disgusting.
Those heroin junkies will scratch their skin off bleeding and not even notice.
disgusting.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:15 am to pleading the fifth
I know a guy who was working out doing male seating rows with a cable machine. Cable snapped and caused him to fall backwards hitting another machine and broke his neck and died before they could get him to the hospital. It was a freak accident, but it could definitely happen.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:40 am to pleading the fifth
But the neurologist said it was impossible 
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:41 am to MSUbulldogs03
As for prisoners in police custody hurting themselves, I watched a guy that was handcuffed and high take off on foot, lower his head and intentionally run himself full speed into a wall. It wasn't like he was trying to get away and hit the wall while looking back. He focused on the wall from the second he took off and only lowered his head at the last second.
Would I have believed the officers story if I hadn't directly witnessed it? Hell no. But I did and gave a statement that probably kept him out of a heap of trouble.
Does that necessarily apply here? Maybe and maybe not but people do strange shite all the time. Look at the number of guys arrested for low level crimes that hang themselves in jail. No one knows what was going through his mind. Or maybe the police wrestled him down and broke his neck in the scuffle. Only a full investigation will decide based on scientific evidence and interviews. The bullshite quickie coroner determination and sudden charges by the prosecutor have me questioning if that will happen.
Would I have believed the officers story if I hadn't directly witnessed it? Hell no. But I did and gave a statement that probably kept him out of a heap of trouble.
Does that necessarily apply here? Maybe and maybe not but people do strange shite all the time. Look at the number of guys arrested for low level crimes that hang themselves in jail. No one knows what was going through his mind. Or maybe the police wrestled him down and broke his neck in the scuffle. Only a full investigation will decide based on scientific evidence and interviews. The bullshite quickie coroner determination and sudden charges by the prosecutor have me questioning if that will happen.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:48 am to MSUbulldogs03
This thread is astounding. Y'all are actually discussing the possibility that the man killed himself by severing his own spinal cord. :smh:
The police can't treat human beings like cattle. They simply can't do what they did whether the guy died or not. The man was detained, restrained, and subjected to some strange torture for no reason whatsoever. I'm sure they didn't mean to kill him but (a) they did and (b) that is almost besides the point.
The police can't treat human beings like cattle. They simply can't do what they did whether the guy died or not. The man was detained, restrained, and subjected to some strange torture for no reason whatsoever. I'm sure they didn't mean to kill him but (a) they did and (b) that is almost besides the point.
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:50 am to jbgleason
These anecdotes are completely irrelevant. "I knew a guy who knew a guy who _________." Seriously, who cares?
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:04 am to Napoleon
Never heard of heroin addicts peeling their skin off
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:08 am to Hammertime
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Breaking your neck isn't nearly as hard as these doctors are making it out to be. I've seen it done when my buddy fell from around 6ft, and he's a quadriplegic now. You just have to hit it in the right spot
Damn. Good thing he had that 6 ft ledge inside the cab of othe van to climb up while shackled and jump off of
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:14 am to Caplewood
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Never heard of heroin addicts peeling their skin off
I didn't mean it literally PEEL their skin, I meant that they will itch their skin until it bleeds.
Needles alone don't do that...
Opiates all cause itching as a side effect.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:15 am to Boats n Hose
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Damn. Good thing he had that 6 ft ledge inside the cab of othe van to climb up while shackled and jump off of
Or a length of cable or a concrete tire stop.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:18 am to Bench McElroy
All I know is that three of those cops were black and three where white. So we can only hate on people who are half black/half white after this, racially speaking.
Therefore, I blame Obama.
Therefore, I blame Obama.
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:19 am to Bench McElroy
Medical experts say it's impossible for person to break own spine in back of van
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ok.....but the man did request medical attention during the ride.
why would he attempt to break his own back after asking for help?!
most likely scenario is, since the victim was not secured in the back of van, he slid forward during a stop or 2, slamming into an immovable object resulting in fatal injuries....
basically, cops were negligent in keeping prisoner safe during transport and not likely they'll be able to weasel out of that charge.
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ok.....but the man did request medical attention during the ride.
why would he attempt to break his own back after asking for help?!
most likely scenario is, since the victim was not secured in the back of van, he slid forward during a stop or 2, slamming into an immovable object resulting in fatal injuries....
basically, cops were negligent in keeping prisoner safe during transport and not likely they'll be able to weasel out of that charge.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:29 am to Boats n Hose
What I was saying is that not a lot of force is needed if you hit it just right. Couple that with his supposed preexisting neck injury and his propensity to sue, you get where I'm going
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:44 am to Napoleon
I'll withold further comment until I see the ME's report. I don't think any of us know if he suffered a spinal cord contusion, hematoma, transection, or at what level the injury occurred. But it's equally ridiculous to assume the injury couldn't not have occurred in the vehicle as many purport it is to believe it could have.
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