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re: McKinney policeman suspended after pulling gun on teens, etc....

Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:02 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37695 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:

1. mother and daughter 'promoted' this party not just for the neighborhood residents, but invited the general public.

2. they did not reserve to pool/park for the party thus other residents were also using the facilities.

3. the mother and daughter attempted to charge admission fees to the party.

4. the DJ that they hired tweeted out the location for the party and invited the general public to the private neighborhood pool. People mostly teen started arriving and began to harass the residents using the pool.

1-4 not crimes. Don't know who harassed whom.

Again, the police chief said the officer's action were "indefensible"
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:06 am
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:04 am to
Just heard on the radio that he resigned
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:05 am
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:11 am to
quote:

in, the police chief said the officer's action were "indefensibl


And? Very few are defending the police. Most think he should not be a cop any longer.

These people were acting like fools and caused problems. Cops should have been called. One officers dumbass actions doesn't negate that.

If you don't agree then hopefully 50 or so kids set up shop outside your house and cause a disturbance. I'm sure you'll just let it go.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8211 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:21 am to
quote:

1-4 not crimes


LOL, guess you've never heard of trespassing, disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37695 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:54 am to
Yet there no charges or citations
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:56 am to
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Yet there no charges or citations


its almost like everyone there is in agreement that they should let this go away. cop probably shouldve been on that page from the get go, but clearly he wasnt....


not that inviting 100 of your friends to an event and creating issues/getting in fights is 100% legal.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50362 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:58 am to
quote:

et there no charges or citations


This doesn't mean a crime wasn't committed. I was pulled over last year for speeding and the officer let me go without a ticket, does that mean I didn't break the law?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Yet there no charges or citations



Once again....and?

I've been let of with warnings for speeding, but it doesn't change the fact I WAS actually speeding.

The kids were being a nuisance. The cops initial goal was to get them to disperse. That is the rightful action to take given the number of folks there. They were doing that until the one idiot cop showed up.

Still doesn't change the fact that the cops were rightfully called out to break up the party.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41962 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:02 pm to
I don't have a link, but I heard the older white woman was suspended from her job (the one who was fighting the promoter).
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
10180 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:03 pm to
Now that the facts are starting to come in, are you idiots still bashing the cop?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I don't have a link, but I heard the older white woman was suspended from her job (the one who was fighting the promoter).



To be honestly I highly doubt she was. The company may have said so in a press release, so the idiots back off and leave them alone.

Just simple damage control from the morons out for blood.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4973 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

No, this country is in its current state because of self entitlement beliefs and no respect for the law by those enforcing them.



FTFY
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

1-4 not crimes.


Did those kids do anything unlawful, probably not. But they broke rules regarding the use of the pool, respecting private property, and the promotion of the party.

IMO, the biggest factor to this whole situation was that the police officer lost control of the situation without waiting for backup. Being the size of a hobbit, he did not exude any presence of command or authority to these teenagers.

If the first officer to respond was either those two big dudes that finally came, I think the situation would had been much better handled.


Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41962 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

To be honestly I highly doubt she was. The company may have said so in a press release, so the idiots back off and leave them alone.


I was thinking the same thing. If they do anything it will be a slap on the wrist.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
24641 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Did those kids do anything unlawful, probably not


quote:

respecting private property
= trespassing you idiot.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Did those kids do anything unlawful, probably not. B


Trespassing
Causing a disturbance/noise violation
Assault and battery on two security guards and one soccer mom
Under age drinking
smoking weed

All are is still illegal in Texas last I checked.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:19 pm to
Looks like Tatiana is lawyering up. The HOA bout to bring the pain.

Although if she is renting a house not sure how she'd be responsible. Maybe there is something in the rental agreement that the renter pays fines incurred.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:34 pm to
Late to the party here, but I'm fine with how he handled the situation.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 1:34 pm to
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did anyone know about the party before people showed up? do the busy bodies of your HOA search twitter for party flyers? i suppose maybe they promoted it in the area, but im guessing no.


the neighborhood kids knew

there are pictures of Tatiana and her mom setting up for the party on the common area well before the incident

when the DJ started setting up, it would be a pretty big indicator to the residents of something being up. Not a cause for alarm since it was the last day of school. When the DJ started playing loud inappropriate music in the commons area then it should have been addressed.

Pools in an HOA typically have lifeguards, life guards are employees of HOA, lifeguard shifts usually have a supervisor. In our hood, if you have a problem at a neighborhood pool, tell a lifeguard and they will report it to their management or call the cops themselves.

Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

= trespassing you idiot


Actually, did you not see that the video was taken with the people on sidewalks and streets. Thus, unless this was a closed-gated neighborhood, those are public areas, the maintenance of the street and sidewalks is the responsibility of the city. Therefore, not trespassing. FYI
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