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re: McKinney policeman suspended after pulling gun on teens, etc....

Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:06 am to
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:06 am to
He most definitely tripped and tried to play it off.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:12 am to
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Am I the only one who thinks he tripped on the tree roots


This is what I thought as well, the barrel roll was just a recovery which beat falling flat on his face. In fact if he had fallen on his face he may have just reverted to shooting everyone in pistol range.



Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:16 am to
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If he tripped he is one smooth rascal and should join the ballet



I'd have to watch it again to know for sure, but didn't one of the kids that he decided to play billy bad arse with even bring something up to the other cop that he had dropped when he tried to put one foot in front of the other?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:17 am to
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This is what I thought as well, the barrel roll was just a recovery which beat falling flat on his face. In fact if he had fallen on his face he may have just reverted to shooting everyone in pistol range.



Of course, because everyone would theoretically pose a threat to him at that point. Forget the fact that it was his dumb arse that couldn't walk and chew gum.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13373 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 2:38 am to
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most likely?

the dude was put on leave, had to resign, and the police chief called his actions indefensible.



He hasn't lifted his head up from his bootlicking duties to pay attention to details.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37706 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:48 am to
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Charges were dropped on that one too.


So he was arrested, got it.

Falsely
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:56 am to
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you comparing a victimless crime to criminal trespassing and assault and battery (what the police where called for).


I don't want to read this whole thread to find it, but what crime did these kids commit? From what I understand a member of the community held a pool party and invited all these kids through facebook. Just because another resident of the area didn't want them there doesn't make it trespassing. Is the crime you talking about is breaking HOA covenant? Disobeying a officer isn't a crime is it?
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 7:58 am
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:55 am to
1. mother and daughter 'promoted' this party not just for the neighborhood residents, but invited the general public.

2. they did not reserve to pool/park for the party thus other residents were also using the facilities.

3. the mother and daughter attempted to charge admission fees to the party.

4. the DJ that they hired tweeted out the location for the party and invited the general public to the private neighborhood pool. People mostly teen started arriving and began to harass the residents using the pool.

5. the residents called the police, and the smallest police officer in Texas showed up.... downhill from there.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8211 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:03 am to
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Lokistale


Yeah, it's funny how none of that is being talked about. No one is taking responsibility for what happened to get to the situation with the cop.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88069 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:07 am to
don't know if this has been posted but the cop in question resigned yesterday SIAP
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:15 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:08 am to
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I don't want to read this whole thread to find it, but what crime did these kids commit?


You need to do a little research. Because you don't even know half of the story. Stop letting the media force feed everything down your throat.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:11 am to
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Yeah, it's funny how none of that is being talked about. No one is taking responsibility for what happened to get to the situation with the cop.



Exactly. Why is the entire narrative about the cop (rhetorical....we know why. It is because it was white on black. Any other racial make up and it is page 6 news)? What about a mob of teenagers invading a small community for no other reason than to be disruptive? If you want to talk about escalating a situation, then putting parents in that no-win position is inviting conflict. Yet the aggressors in this situation are forgiven due to a single dumbass decision by someone who couldn't control himself.

Blacks are encouraged to be defiant of authority and police specifically. We saw it in Missouri. We saw it in Baltimore. The aftermath is only reinforcing this absurd perspective.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:13 am
Posted by CosmicGas93361
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:19 am to
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This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 9:47 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80241 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:21 am to
That dumbass kid is lucky he didn't get shot.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:21 am to
IN isolation I see no problem with the gun being drawn.

However in totality when combined with everything that happened with the officer prior it was likely the nail in his coffin for keeping his job.

If he had not been screaming obscenities, lost control of the situation, and man handled the chick, and was simply just putting someone in cuffs followed by these kids running up on him???? No problem. But when you put everything together, he brought it on himself.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:25 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:21 am to
I still don't understand why those blue blips were added to the guy. It almost seems like whoever created it wanted to hide the fact that he didn't have a gun in his hand. Why not just circle his hand?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85360 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:22 am to
"assumes shooting stance"

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:23 am to
That's a blue shirt or towel.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:24 am to
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Barrel roll - dumb



goofy - yea. lost his footing, and caught himself. should he have been chasing in the first place? no idea. makes for a funny gif, but in the context of this.... whatever....

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Roid Raging at teenagers - inappropriate



the yelling was getting carried away. agree he should have checked himself here. it escalated the tensions for sure.

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Slamming down a 15yr old girl for mouthing off - unacceptable and worthy of losing his job


to be fair, he was walking her back to go sit with the others because she returned after being told to leave and was still being a nuisance after being warned. you have the right to talk back, but in a situation where cops are outnumbered, and theres already been fighting - a little buffer and respect to commands goes a long

the slam came for trying to squirrel out of him walking her back. once the cop says come with me and has hand on shoulder dont duck and squirm to get away or you will be restrained on the ground. he did get carried away with the face in the ground stuff.

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Drawing his weapon in the face of four males closing down on him in a threatening way - understandable to a degree but in hindsight a blatant overreaction


in hindsight? why? because you now know they didnt have a weapon on them? the dude pulled the gun, threat left and backup came - he put the gun away. looks bad, wasnt bad.

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the problem with all of this is residents or HOA employees should have called the cops and busted up the party before the crowd showed up. That is a breakdown in HOA management. Especially when the inappropriate music was being played. I live in a development like this one and rest assured this would never happen here. We have too many HOA employees and busy bodies around here to have an escalation of this magnitude.


did anyone know about the party before people showed up? do the busy bodies of your HOA search twitter for party flyers? i suppose maybe they promoted it in the area, but im guessing no.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:26 am to
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I still don't understand why those blue blips were added to the guy. It almost seems like whoever created it wanted to hide the fact that he didn't have a gun in his hand. Why not just circle his hand?


its an item the guy was holding. if i recall it was on his shoulder (towel or shirt) and he pulled it off when he started in after the cop.
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