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Matt Jones info and breakdown and why the officer was charged for endangerment.

Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:41 am
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:41 am
Jones is very connected in Louisville. Graduated #2 in Duke Law and clerked for Justice Roberts in DC. Yes, he is a democrat but understands Kentucky law.
He expressed the only thing in this whole case is the warrant should had never been issued. The police involved in the incident did not file for the warrant (interesting)...and Breonna’s ex boyfriend was taunting the LMPD on social media prior to the shooting. Said under Kentucky law, police have a right to defend themselves, so they had the right to fire back (due to her boyfriend fired a shot towards them). The officer charged for endangerment was he fired 21 of the 24 shots during the raid.


Matt breaks it down.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 10:47 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:42 am to
Matt Jones is a soy lord
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:44 am to
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Breonna’s ex boyfriend was taunting the LMPD on social media prior to the shooting.

Scum bag
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41557 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:44 am to
Watch the fricking periscope if you want the inside scoop. Yes, he is a soy boy but his info on this may surprise you.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:46 am to
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Graduated #2 in Duke Law


Is this some sort of accomplishment? Congrats on coming in second!
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78099 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:47 am to
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due to her boyfriend fired a shot towards them

TOWARDS???

seems he got one of the officers right in the thigh.

you know, nothing dangerous like a femoral artery there or anything.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:49 am to
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21 of the 24 shots


God damn. He reloaded?

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42634 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:50 am to
Once he fired on officer's the police had to fire back.
I agree, the warrant should have never been approved in the first place.
And even if it was, they should have had body cameras on conducting it.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:58 am to
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Is this some sort of accomplishment? Congrats on coming in second!


Yeah, 2nd in class at a T14 law school (it was 7th at the time he graduated) is just a participation trophy.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13189 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:00 am to
Well, matty bangs is probably getting some of his info from Steve Romines so I don't know how accurate it is.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15316 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:01 am to
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The officer charged for endangerment was he fired 21 of the 24 shots during the raid.



Geez. It may not be true, as I only read it on here. But this guy also allegedly wasn't even in the apartment, and the whole time was blindly shooting through the door.

Is that part bs or true?
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7722 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:02 am to
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Matt Jones


quote:

Graduated #2 in Duke Law



That's weird. I thought he went to Arkansas?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30794 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:03 am to
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The police involved in the incident did not file for the warrant (interesting).


Normally, a detective/supervisor will file for the warrant. Beat cops or teams will execute the warrant. They may or may not know what is going on in the case. They may get just a small tidbit of what they are looking for.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:04 am to
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Is this some sort of accomplishment? Congrats on coming in second!

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25666 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:05 am to
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That's weird. I thought he went to Arkansas?


No, it is true. I thought it was odd too but I looked him up in my alumni directory.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41557 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:08 am to
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Steve Romines


One the the best defense attorney in Kentucky...also, I’d imagine Matt is getting info from other places. I know UL fans hate him, but you got to admit, what he puts out there is pretty much dead on (and I would not vote for him if he ran against Cocaine Mitch).
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41557 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:09 am to
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Obtuse1


Duke Law Alum?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:11 am to
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I agree, the warrant should have never been approved in the first place


That's not exactly what he said.

He said strictly based on the information he has he would probably have not issued the warrant. He then talked about the "rumors" that he heard. According to rumors he heard, Taylor's only connection to her drug dealing boyfriend was that he once picked up a UPS package for her.

He then ADMITTED that he did not know if this WAS IT.

There have been other stories about the police having taped telephone conversations showing that Breonna was actively involved in her boyfriend's drug business.

IF that is the case, the warrant would have "almost definitely" been justified.

We don't know.

Even in his assertion that the charge for wanton disregard against Hankerson was probably justified, he admits that he doesn't know all the of the facts and is strictly basing that off of the "rumor" that Hankerson fire 21 of the 24 shots. But, he then qualifies that by saying he would have to know more facts like how quickly those shots were fired and over what time period those shots were fire, and when was Breonna hit by ANOTHER bullet vis-a-vis Hankerson's firing of his gun.

I personally believe that once Breonna's friend fired upon the police, all bets were off. The ONLY possible exception could be if there was a quick exchange of gun fire and all the firing had stopped, the police had the situation under control, and THEN Breonna was shot by a cop. Based upon EVERYTHING I've heard, that isn't even close to the facts of the case.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41557 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:13 am to
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
99057 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:14 am to
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He expressed the only thing in this whole case is the warrant should had never been issued. The police involved in the incident did not file for the warrant (interesting)...


My biggest beef in all this is that we know at least one officer that was the affiant on the warrant lied about the evidence on the warrant. And that's a HUGE issue in respect to the power we give to officers to issue warrants and calls into question whether a warrant (in the nature it was issued particularly) would have been issued for her residence.

That officer's "accountability" was to be reassigned to another position within the department with full pay, full benefits, etc. That's a huge, systematic issue.

I genuinely question what lives could've been saved (and I'm not talking about just Breonna Taylor's) if police were held accountable for falsifying information on a warrant? I mean, if she was allegedly part of this drug ring then why the lie to obtain the warrant for her residence? You've got plenty to detain Glover at that point.

quote:

A day before the raid, a detective asked a judge to approve the warrant in part because he claimed a postal inspector verified that Glover was using Taylor's home to receive parcels, the affidavit says.

It is "possible" that Louisville police asked a mail inspector from another jurisdiction of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service for help, Gooden said, but he said his office almost surely would have been notified of an outside agent's involvement.

That didn't happen, he said. If a postal inspector from another agency did review packages at Taylor's apartment without notifying him, it would be innappropriate.


WDRB article/interview with US Postmaster in question

This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:21 am
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