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re: Maternity leave in the USA...
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:10 am to jbgleason
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:10 am to jbgleason
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Reading the OP, this is kid #6. So she gets 12 weeks for each kid times 6. That's 72 months off maternity leave plus a presumed two weeks a year Vacation. Over a twenty year career that is 40 weeks vacation plus holidays plus 72 weeks maternity. Even my LA public school math says she is getting over 10% of her career as PTO before retiring. Wow.
even if this were the case (it's not-read again) the entire point is that the company decides if this is worth it or not. There are no mandatory requirements.
Some of you are so combative; I hope you're not business owners or hiring managers. If someone receives benefits like this, she is likely a huge asset to the company. You find ways around when they are out, but you know damn good and well they are coming back to work. Instead of treating your employees like they are always trying to frick you over, how about go over and beyond for them so that they actually fricking enjoy working for you.
OP's daughter is not a grocery bagger. She likely has a pretty important role with Progressive. High producing sales person, claims manager, etc. And a lot of times in this industry when the perks are this significant, you have to suffer in other areas. Long hours, 50+% travel, high expectations, etc etc
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:11 am to cuyahoga tiger
Wife was offered 10 weeks full pay, she started getting stir crazy so she went back in 5 for both our kids. Small legal office, she's been there for 12 years, most senior by far, doubt he offers the same deal to everyone, if anyone for that matter.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:12 am to dcrews
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I just tilt my head sideways a lot when I talk to people about this subject and they are adamant that paid maternity leave should be 12 months, fully paid and mandatory.
I 100% do not believe you that you have heard that from numerous people.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:14 am to cas4t
This is the very reason companies with good hiring practices have exit interviews and surveys.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:17 am to Black n Gold
Seriously, more like a 40 year career. You may not stay with one company, but 20 years is the career length of either an OT baller or a Democrat.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:17 am to cuyahoga tiger
We're having our first child in September. My wife's employer doesn't offer maternity leave until you've been with the company 5 years and she will have been there 4 when the baby arrives. She has to use her personal vacation days and short term disability. 
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:19 am to ForeverLSU02
Congrats on the baby.
I assume she'll hit the 5 year mark post September?
I assume she'll hit the 5 year mark post September?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:19 am to ForeverLSU02
That's some terrible planning.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:20 am to laangler21
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Wife was offered 10 weeks full pay, she started getting stir crazy so she went back in 5 for both our kids. Small legal office, she's been there for 12 years, most senior by far, doubt he offers the same deal to everyone, if anyone for that matter.
I've got some bad news for you - your wife is probably sleeping with her boss.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:20 am to Black n Gold
Marinated a little too early.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:20 am to Black n Gold
Yep. Funny you mention that. I left a large brokerage a couple of years ago and was brutally honest in my exit interview. It wasn't 3 months later and they had all new management. Granted, I was 1 of many that left in about a year time span, but the point is that corporate was able to learn how shitty our head of office was treating the service staff. No way they could have known without those exit interviews because otherwise the only information available to them would have come from our head of office anyways, who was the problem.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:22 am to CaptainsWafer
quote:No, I meant to say she'll be at 4 years when the baby is due.
I assume she'll hit the 5 year mark post September?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:23 am to ForeverLSU02
Wow, that sucks. Does she plan on going back to that employer? I don't know how I could sleep at night if I were her boss.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:23 am to ForeverLSU02
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She has to use her personal vacation days and short term disability.
Which probably means she's getting 100% for 5 weeks and 60% for the next 3 assuming 2 weeks vacation and 8 weeks STD. Not to shabby.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:24 am to Black n Gold
quote:Considering we'd been trying for the last 3 years to get pregnant with no luck we're ecstatic. We were beginning to have our doubts
That's some terrible planning.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:25 am to cuyahoga tiger
When I worked for PricewaterhouseCoopers women got 6 weeks paid, then could use vacation, then could take FMLA. It was not uncommon for women to be out 6 months. New fathers got 3 weeks paid. Now either parent can get 6 weeks consecutive or three weeks throughout the year.
If it helps to retain talented employees it is a small investment.
If it helps to retain talented employees it is a small investment.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:25 am to cas4t
I agree.
And you guys do realize there are three states in the US who mandate some sort of paid maternity leave? And guess what, it seems to be working. Obviously for the employees and not hurting businesses to the catastrophic levels that people go on about.
Some excerpts from this article:LINK
This is another really good article but it wouldn't let me C&P.
LINK
And you guys do realize there are three states in the US who mandate some sort of paid maternity leave? And guess what, it seems to be working. Obviously for the employees and not hurting businesses to the catastrophic levels that people go on about.
Some excerpts from this article:LINK
quote:
Wojcicki reported the rate at which new moms left Google fell by 50% when in 2007 it increased paid maternity leave from 12 weeks to 18 weeks. "Mothers were able to take the time they needed to bond with their babies and return to their jobs feeling confident and ready. And it's much better for Google's bottom line — to avoid costly turnover, and to retain the valued expertise, skills, and perspective of our employees who are mothers."
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In 2004, California became the first state to implement a paid-family-leave policy that enables most working Californians to receive 55% of their usual salary (up to $1,104) for a maximum of six weeks.
Since then, only New Jersey and Rhode Island have actualized similar programs.
According to a report last year from the President's Council of Economic Advisers, more than 90% of employers affected by California's paid family-leave initiative reported either positive or no noticeable effect on profitability, turnover, and morale.
This is another really good article but it wouldn't let me C&P.
LINK
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:25 am to H.M. Murdock
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Your wife's employer is paying your wife for work. Your wife is not working as a result of her decision to have a child. Your wife's employer owes your wife nothing.
This is why women in America feel like they aren't afforded proper opportunities. This mentality does two things: keep women from achieving in the workforce and keeps high achieving women from having children, both of which should be encouraged by our society.
Your 1950s, Norman Rockwell ideal of America life is a relic of the past. Time to grow with the rest of the world, or get passed by. Your mentality shows that you have no idea how to handle women in the workforce and would simply rather they be barefoot and pregnant.
I'm sure you're not alone, particularly on this board, but your breed it is adying.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:25 am to slackster
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Which probably means she's getting 100% for 5 weeks and 60% for the next 3 assuming 2 weeks vacation and 8 weeks STD. Not to shabby.
And no vacation or short term disability. Hope she stays safe! That's a dog shite company policy.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:27 am to ForeverLSU02
Either way, congrats bud.
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