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re: Mass shooting reported in Texas; multiple deaths reported
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:12 pm to martiallaw
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:12 pm to martiallaw
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Then you correct me and tell me what they are designed to do other then to efficiently kill as many human beings in as short of a time as possible and cause mass casualties to other humans.
Pretty chicken shite backpedaling. You specifically said it was designed to kill INNOCENT human beings. Fear mongering through lies. Go back and read and edit.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:44 pm to Festus
Im not backpedaling at all. I state and continue to state that guns like the TEK DC9 semi-automatic machine gun were designed to kill human beings in mass. The designers and manufactures of the gun don't give one thought or another of how it kills innocent or non-innocent human just as long as it is good as causing mass carnage. I never said I was a gun expert far from it. I do know and you can correct me if I am wrong, that the TEK DC9 has a two handed grip so you can better spray bullets and the company had got in trouble previously for marketing its excellent resistance to fingerprints. I don't need to fear monger anything, this is reality I am not exaggerating any event. I am purely pointing out the absurdly and acceptance of having these types of guns at your local sporting good store and/or gun show that can be easily purchased to do exactly what they were designed to do.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:46 pm to Festus
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Some people would rather have a baseball bat
That will really scare someone who has a gun..
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:49 pm to lsu2006
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This is always my favorite talking point that comes up in these situations.
Cool. Mine is when people try to blame the weapon for a tragedy, knowing full well that the issue is in fact not the weapon, but the evil person behind it. But hey, don't know how we can stop that, so I know, let's take the weapons away from law abiding people and ensure that only criminals can possess them. Hooray America. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:50 pm to martiallaw
What sporting goods store are you shopping at that has anything remotely similar to a TEK-DC9?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:53 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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That’s really not the point though.
It’s an argument I wish people would stop making. Not because I agree/disagree with the statement, but because it shifts the debate away from the original intent of the 2A. And believe me, the original intent argument isn’t one anti-gun people want to be having - the original intent was to have the people protected from their government. To do so the people have to be as well armed (or at least have the capability to be as well armed) as their government.
The founding father had just fought a bloody war against a tyrannical government - their own government nonetheless. They knew that in order to prevent that from occurring again they would need to assure the new government couldn’t use undue force against its people. But, that same new government would need to be able to defend itself against other governments. So how did they reconcile this? They decided to equally arm the government and the people.
This is supposed to be a system of checks and balances not unlike those of Congress-President-Supreme Court. The government should always “fear” the actions of its people: should a government abuse its power, the power it derives from the people, then the people should be able to defy with equal force. This could be an invasion by the government or simply an unjust intrusion onto personal property. (I’m not advocating that we take up arms every time congress does something we don’t like, but the threat should be there. Congress should weigh every decision it makes against the will of the people - and an equal armed people are much better represented than a populous of unarmed sheep.)
Furthermore, because the government is supposed to be limited in its role, the people are in turn supposed to be empowered to carry out personal defense of their persons and their property. The founders never intended the government to be the “nanny” of our lives; we aren’t supposed to run to government for every little problem that arrises. This works on all levels including a community’s choice to self-authoritate.
Lastly, because of the wording and the very nature of the 2A, it shouldn’t matter if a weapon is “useful,” or “necessary,” or any other qualifier you wish to attach. It is simply whether or not I wish to own it. If I “want” to own a gun that can fire x rounds per minute, or looks like a gun from a movie, or just because it looks like fun, then I should be allowed to because it isn’t prohibited by the Constitution and I haven’t had my rights to own such removed by due process. Someone else’s “dislike” of my property is not justification for inhibiting my rights.
No bullshite.
I almost got a tattoo of this..
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The people -- the people -- are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts -- not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:03 pm to Festus
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Cool. Mine is when people try to blame the weapon for a tragedy, knowing full well that the issue is in fact not the weapon, but the evil person behind it. But hey, don't know how we can stop that, so I know, let's take the weapons away from law abiding people and ensure that only criminals can possess them. Hooray America. Wash, rinse, repeat.
When it comes to "gun control", by no means do I think the government should take people's guns away, when I talk about it, the only thing I do, is think of ways, within the constitution, that could make the public safer, which I am not sure that is possible. With that said, I do agree.. If some crazy frick wants to do something to hurt groups of people, if they didn't have access to a gun, they would use something else.
The jerkoff who shot up the church yesterday obtained his gun illegally so you can put any law in the books and he would have still been able to get a gun.. But if not a gun, he could have went to walmart and bought a crockpot and made a bomb out of it..
With that said, the one thing I do question is.. why does the US have a lot more gun deaths than any other country?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:03 pm to martiallaw
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semi-automatic machine gun
Proof that you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:09 pm to OweO
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With that said, the one thing I do question is.. why does the US have a lot more gun deaths than any other country?
Because we took every other country in the world, and put a few of their people into a new one.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:12 pm to martiallaw
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I state and continue to state that guns like the TEK DC9 semi-automatic machine gun were designed to kill human beings in mass
Then you should know that a semi-automatic machine gun is a thing that does not exist.
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the TEK DC9 has a two handed grip so you can better spray bullets
How does one "spray bullets"?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:34 pm to jdeval1
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They are great for killing wild pigs
I ate wild hog Saturday. I will take that any day over store bought pork..
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:38 pm to 3deadtrolls
Has anyone mentioned the motive that has been reported? The dude was apparently pissed at his mother-in-law and that was the church she attended although she was not at service yesterday.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:40 pm to martiallaw
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Im not backpedaling at all. I state and continue to state that guns like the TEK DC9 semi-automatic machine gun were designed to kill human beings in mass. The designers and manufactures of the gun don't give one thought or another of how it kills innocent or non-innocent human just as long as it is good as causing mass carnage. I never said I was a gun expert far from it. I do know and you can correct me if I am wrong, that the TEK DC9 has a two handed grip so you can better spray bullets and the company had got in trouble previously for marketing its excellent resistance to fingerprints. I don't need to fear monger anything, this is reality I am not exaggerating any event. I am purely pointing out the absurdly and acceptance of having these types of guns at your local sporting good store and/or gun show that can be easily purchased to do exactly what they were designed to do.
Serious question... are you trolling right now or are you legitimately retarded?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:48 pm to martiallaw
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martiallaw
Can you post your gamertag so I can avoid you in COD? You're clearly a badass.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:51 pm to OweO
quote:get it on your legs
The people -- the people -- are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts -- not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.
why you might ask
1) it wont hurt
and
b)
they prolly look like 200+ year lambskin
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:00 pm to OWLFAN86
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1) it wont hurt
and
b)
they prolly look like 200+ year lambskin
This motherfricker went full savage in this bitch.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:03 pm to martiallaw
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I don't need to fear monger anything, this is reality I am not exaggerating any event. I am purely pointing out the absurdly and acceptance of having these types of guns at your local sporting good store and/or gun show that can be easily purchased to do exactly what they were designed to do.
Charles Whitman Killed 18 people and wounded 31 at the University of Texas with a bolt action, single shot hunting rifle, a rifle that can still be purchased at most sporting goods stores.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:12 pm to martiallaw
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Sandy Hook he used a Bushmaster Ak-15 to kill the kids but used the pistol to kill himself. The weapon that caused the most damage in Columbine a a fully automatic submachine gun
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Bushmaster AR-15 used to kill 20 kindergartners. Wonderful weapon. Columbine used a Tec Submachine semiautomatic pistol.
Again, when you figure out exactly what you are trying to talk about let me know. I’ll be here. Until then, push your bullshite agenda on another website
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:12 pm to martiallaw
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Tec Submachine semiautomatic pistol
You've just been spewing the most ignorant fricking bullshite in all of these threads. Let me help you out a little, you stupid frick.
A submachine gun is a FULLY AUTOMATIC gun designed to fire pistol cartridges.
A SEMI-AUTOMATIC is a gun that fires once for each pull of the trigger.
Now do you see how "submachine semiautomatic" makes absolutely no fricking sense at all?
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