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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:43 am to NoSaint
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:43 am to NoSaint
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How would he have framed him? The dude had quite a bit in the room to be surprised by all this.
Yeah, Paddock was either in on the plan or was setting up a gun buy, but definitely knew all those guns were up there. No other solution can make sense.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:46 am to Tiger in NY
Yes, and money laundering or arms dealing can certainly help explain how he was making a living between his last recorded employment and his jump to multi-million dollar property deals.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:47 am to Athis
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:50 am to Athis
What time is this press conference today?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:50 am to VaBamaMan
Where are pics of this. If a "bunch of homeland Vehicles" are around the hotel, pics would be all over.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:51 am to rocket31
Yeah that is funny...I saw an early article about Jesus Campos that had this guys picture in it stating that he was the security guard..sorry no link.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:53 am to TennesseeFan25
It has been 5 PM (CT)
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:53 am to Rossberg02
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If Campos is the shooter or the accomplice, why didn’t ISIS mention him? Either ISIS is lying, Campos didn’t have any involvement, or Campos is the guy that did everything.
Maybe they did....did they specifically state that Paddock was Abd al-Bar al-Amriki? Or could they have been referring to Campos as the convert from 6 months ago?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:54 am to Tiger in NY
just don't understand how campos could be involved in actual shooting when he was ducking in hall way/ warned maintenance man to get out of way, they were taking active fire from paddock in room and paddock went back in room further actively shooting during that time?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:56 am to TennesseeFan25
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What time is this press conference today?
Even though the big media outlets are going to be there, nobody knowing the time of the press conference is a good indicator they are trying to limit and hand pick who attends. See this a lot on shady deals.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:57 am to TakingStock
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Yes, and money laundering or arms dealing can certainly help explain how he was making a living between his last recorded employment and his jump to multi-million dollar property deals.
I've seen this "arms dealer" theory a few times now. Question: if the POS was an arms dealer, why does it appear he only had retail/off-the-shelf weapons and accessories? I'd think an "arms dealer" would have easy access to fully-auto stuff, maybe even a mini-gun or something belt fed.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:59 am to Rossberg02
quote:ISIS didnt even mention paddock's name. Not sure omitting campos name by ISIS means much.
If Campos is the shooter or the accomplice, why didn’t ISIS mention him?
quote:
“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition,” the terror group’s news agency Amaq said in reference to the US-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East. “The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq also said on the Telegram online messaging service, according to Agence France-Presse.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:00 pm to Chad504boy
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st don't understand how campos could be involved in actual shooting when he was ducking in hall way/ warned maintenance man to get out of way, they were taking active fire from paddock in room and paddock went back in room further actively shooting during that time?
If you listed to the audio call from the Maintenance man who reported, he does not mention that there is any guard there. I think the Mainetenance Man was the one that stumbled upon Campos (or Campos and Paddock more likely), and was the real hero.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:01 pm to TheCurmudgeon
Someone was explaining that to me earlier. Dude was actually just a low level knowledge, enough to be pretty dangerous individual, in reference to what could have actually been done by high level knowledge and expertise.
quote:
've seen this "arms dealer" theory a few times now. Question: if the POS was an arms dealer, why does it appear he only had retail/off-the-shelf weapons and accessories? I'd think an "arms dealer" would have easy access to fully-auto stuff, maybe even a mini-gun or something belt fed.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:01 pm to TheCurmudgeon
quote:
I've seen this "arms dealer" theory a few times now. Question: if the POS was an arms dealer, why does it appear he only had retail/off-the-shelf weapons and accessories? I'd think an "arms dealer" would have easy access to fully-auto stuff, maybe even a mini-gun or something belt fed.
I am wondering that as well.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:02 pm to TheCurmudgeon
quote:That's what I've been saying... an arms dealer doesnt sell guns that he bought using his own name.
I've seen this "arms dealer" theory a few times now. Question: if the POS was an arms dealer, why does it appear he only had retail/off-the-shelf weapons and accessories? I'd think an "arms dealer" would have easy access to fully-auto stuff, maybe even a mini-gun or something belt fed.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:03 pm to LarryDavid
The laura loomer chick claims that Local media doesn't believe a lot of what Vegas Police are saying, but that if they call them out they will lose ALL access to info, so they have to handle every news conference with kid gloves.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:07 pm to TakingStock
quote:
I have said from day one that he probably doesn't exist.
The story about Campos didn't even come out until the second day
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:08 pm to mgdtiger
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Where are pics of this. If a "bunch of homeland Vehicles" are around the hotel, pics would be all over.
Who knows, but everything else she has posted has been legit.
She tweeted several pictures that had been taken of a Mandalay Bay security computer, showing Paddock's van in the parking garage with a date of 9/25/17. This was when we had been officially told he had checked in on the 28th.
At the first press conference after she tweeted that out, Sheriff Lombardo changed the official date by confirming that Paddock did check in on the 25th. But then said he didn't actually stay in the room until the 28th.
So that confirmed the pictures were real. Which means she does have a reliable source inside the Mandalay Bay. Notice her tweet says they are only shutting down certain parts of the hotel. If they are smaller areas away from the public, it would be easy for them to prevent any pictures being taken.
It's more than likely that the vehicles were not literally "around the hotel" but in the staff parking area. Away from public eyes.
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