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VaBamaMan
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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ISIS


there goes the conservatives.

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Another piece of info, Danley said Paddock was "anti-government"


And there go the liberals.



Charlie Arglist
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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Will the shooter have a funeral and wake like a normal person? Serious question


No. He is being cremated so he can get a head start on burning in Hell.


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Tiger in NY
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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ISIS


there goes the conservatives.

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Another piece of info, Danley said Paddock was "anti-government"


And there go the liberals


A possible left leaning guy kills people in the name of ISIS.

It's a Trump wet dream. He also gets to knock out a little gun control too.


Edit: The Democrat part is falso (removed)
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Just so that nothing gets mixed up, I am just posting a timeline of the shooters activity between October 2016 - September 2017 and then on October 1.

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Oct. 2016-Sept. 2017
Paddock purchases 33 firearms, mostly rifles, over the course of an 11-month period, according to a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Investigators are looking into whether something occurred in October 2016 that compelled him to begin purchasing weapons.
Aug. 3-6
A person using the name Stephen Paddock reserves a room at the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago in August during the Lollapalooza Music Festival, according to Emmy Carragher, a spokeswoman for Wagstaff Worldwide Media, which represents this Marriott hotel.
Lollapalooza was held in Grant Park in Chicago from August 3-6. The Blackstone Hotel overlooks the park.
That person never checked into the hotel, Carragher told CNN. It's not immediately clear whether the individual is, in fact, Las Vegas gunman Stephen C. Paddock.
Mid-September
Hurricane Irma hits Florida. Stephen Paddock texts his brother Eric and his mother, who live in Florida, to ask how his mother is doing and whether they have power, according to Eric Paddock. Stephen Paddock talks to his mother on the phone and sends her a walker because she's having trouble walking, Eric Paddock tells CNN.
Sept. 15
After leaving the US, Paddock's girlfriend, Marilou Danley, flies from Tokyo, Japan, to the Philippines. She says Paddock bought her the airline tickets and then wired her money so she could buy herself a house there. One of her sisters says she believes Paddock sent Danley away so she wouldn't interfere with his plans.
Sept. 22
Marilou Danley, traveling on her Australian passport, flies from the Philippines to Hong Kong.
Sept. 22-25
Stephen Paddock rents a room at a condominium complex in downtown Las Vegas at the same time as the Life is Beautiful music festival, which featured performances from Chance the Rapper, Muse and Lorde.
"Was he doing pre-surveillance?" Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department asked. "We don't know yet, this is all conjecture at this point."
Sept. 25
Marilou Danley flies from Hong Kong back to the Philippines.
Sept. 28
Paddock checks into a suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino with uninterrupted views of the Las Vegas Strip and the festival grounds across the street.
Sept. 28-Oct. 1
Over the course of several days, Paddock brings in excess of 10 suitcases up to his suite, Sheriff Lombardo says. Housekeepers visited the suite and did not see anything amiss, Nevada Rep. Dina Titus told CNN.
Paddock sets up at least 23 weapons inside his hotel room, including multiple rifles, some of which had scopes. He also attaches 12 "bump-fire stocks" -- devices that enable shooters to fire bullets at a faster rate -- on the guns.
Paddock sets up cameras inside his hotel suite, in the hallway and in his door's peephole, all of which may have been used to watch for people approaching his room, Lombardo says.
Sept. 29
The Route 91 Harvest Festival, a three-day country music concert, kicks off at the Las Vegas Village, a venue across the Strip from the Luxor hotel and the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.
Sunday, October 1
9:40 p.m.

Country music star Jason Aldean begins his set as the final musical act of the festival.
10:05 p.m.
Paddock smashes out two windows of his suite with a hammer, then opens fire at the 22,000 concertgoers below. The shots are caught on closed-circuit television from the concert venue. Concertgoers, confused at first, soon scatter in panic.
10:12 p.m.
Two Las Vegas police officers make it to the 31st floor of the Mandalay Bay after working their way up the building. One radios in: "I'm inside the Mandalay Bay on the 31st floor, I can hear automatic fire coming from one floor ahead... one floor above us."
10:15 p.m.
Paddock fires his final shots, which are recorded on an officer's bodycam.
10:17 p.m.
The first two officers arrive on Paddock's floor.
10:18 p.m.
A hotel security guard on the 32nd floor tells Las Vegas Metropolitan Police that he's been shot and provides the room number from which Paddock was firing.
10:26-10:30 p.m.
Eight more officers arrive on the 32nd floor. Not hearing gunfire, they move down the hall, clearing rooms along the way in case the shooter has barricaded himself.
10:55 p.m.
The officers arrive in the stairwell nearest the suite at the north end of the hall. Noting two cameras set up on a room service cart, they pull back to wait for a SWAT team.
11:20 p.m.
SWAT officers use an explosive to breach the door to Paddock's suite and discover him dead on the floor, apparently of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Officers note the door to one of the suite's bedrooms is closed.
11:27 p.m.
The SWAT team uses another charge to gain entry to the bedroom and discover no one else is there. An officer radios that the suspect is down.
CNN's Janet DiGiacomo, Sheena Jones, Brad Parks and Euan McKirdy contributed to this story.


There is also a video in the link, I am sure most of you have seen it.
Timeline With Video
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Tiger in NY
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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Investigators are looking into whether something occurred in October 2016 that compelled him to begin purchasing weapons


Bet you they find out he was overseas somewhere around that time


OweO
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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Bet you they find out he was overseas somewhere around that time



If it has been discussed in this thread, I missed it, but what makes you think this?


Tiger in NY
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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If it has been discussed in this thread, I missed it, but what makes you think this?


It has not, but I have supposed from the get-go that he was turned by ISIS (after their initial claim of responsibility). I imagine he met ISIS affiliates on his travels to the Philippines or on some other cruise he took to SE Asia (apparently he did a lot of cruises).
If everyone is saying he changed in October 2026, then I would connect that that was the point at which he was initially radicalized (probably not in the US).


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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
CNN - Las Vegas shooter took 20 cruises, some to foreign ports
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In addition to his frequent forays into casinos and gun shops, Las Vegas strip killer Stephen Paddock took 20 cruises, many of them in Europe and the Middle East, investigators have learned.
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The cruises included stops at ports in Spain, Italy, Greece, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, according to information provided by a law enforcement source who asked not to be identified because the source was not authorized to share information about the investigation. Paddock's girlfriend, Marilou Danley, accompanied him on nine of the cruises.


13SaintTiger
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Your obsession with isis is scary


Tiger in NY
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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In addition to his frequent forays into casinos and gun shops, Las Vegas strip killer Stephen Paddock took 20 cruises, many of them in Europe and the Middle East, investigators have learned.


frick this, it is ISIS. I am more and more convinced. Only reason they keep bullshiteting us about the investigation.


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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
NBC News
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Investigators are trying to nail down whether anyone else was in the hotel suite reserved by the Las Vegas gunman during the time he was registered there, multiple senior law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation into the shooting told NBC News.
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The investigators are puzzled by two discoveries: First, a charger was found that does not match any of the cell phones that belonged to Stephen Paddock, the man who killed himself inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino after sending a barrage of bullets down on a crowd of 22,000 people below.
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And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock's car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room.


13SaintTiger
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
I've taken a bunch of cruises to foreign countries, doesn't really say much. I honestly don't think the investigators have anything yet and are searching every crevice they can


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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Another interesting snippet from that article:

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They are also examining his finances. IRS records show that Paddock was a very successful gambler, earning at least $5 million in 2015. Some of that could be from his other investments, but most of it was from gambling, officials say.


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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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I've taken a bunch of cruises to foreign countries, doesn't really say much.
I agree with this (if you're looking at this bit independently). It could lead them down a path that will reveal more though and should be followed up on.
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Festus
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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I've taken a bunch of cruises to foreign countries, doesn't really say much.

Did you ever return, commit a mass murder, and have ISIS formally claim responsibility?


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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
I think he means that by itself it doesn't say much. In conjunction with everything else, it might lead them to more clues.


13SaintTiger
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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Did you ever return, commit a mass murder, and have ISIS formally claim responsibility?




His girlfriend didnt. What logical conclusion are you able to draw from it? Dude had a bunch of money, and liked to cruise to different places in the world


13SaintTiger
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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I think he means that by itself it doesn't say much


Correct


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VaBamaMan
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
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They are also examining his finances. IRS records show that Paddock was a very successful gambler, earning at least $5 million in 2015. Some of that could be from his other investments, but most of it was from gambling, officials say.


On video poker, which pays back out 99.97% of what you gamble to a player who was as good as Paddock apparently was.

Would be a GREAT way to launder large sums of money.



Insert teenage emo black stealth helicopters here.
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Festus
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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Oh, I agree. That alone doesn't mean a thing, really. But coupled with ISIS making a claim that he was one of theirs, and even providing his muslim name, knowing that he did in fact personally visit the Middle East definitely makes things more interesting.

Up until now, he has been portrayed by his brother as a strange, hermit type. There was never any evidence that he had traveled to the mid east, only that his gf did.


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