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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:54 pm to
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lets be honest here.

if this guy was just a deranged old man who acted alone, they would have said so by now.




No.

The public wouldnt buy it.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:54 pm to
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1. Is security guard alive?
2. Was Paddocks car in the parking garage or in front of the hotel?

1. yes. was shot in the leg. (oddly, that Paddock decided to shoot someone down low and not high)

2. Didn't say. But I doubt Paddock ever planned on getting away. just couldn't have. not from the 32nd floor of an incredibly crowded hotel. He shot for too long. Mayabe had he shot for about 2 or 3 minutes then tried to get the hell out, maybe.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
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The public wouldnt buy it.


and you think theyre going to buy it the longer this drags out?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
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Just a guess...add the tannerite with the fertilizer and you have a pretty big boom. Maybe he was planning on running his car bomb into a crowd?




After learning this I now feel like he worked alone, because that's a retarded plan. The cops were at the hotel with what, 10 minutes of the shooting, I doubt he would have been able to get to his car. Unless he wanted to shoot at his car?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
Yes. The media will wash it and have a new breaking story.

Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
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if this guy was just a deranged old man who acted alone, they would have said so by now.


I can agree with this. I have no idea what his motive was, I don't think it's ISIS, I don't think he was running guns for the FBI, but I don't know what it is. It may be as simple as him having an accomplice or multiple, but it seems like there is something they aren't telling us.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Just a guess...add the tannerite with the fertilizer and you have a pretty big boom. Maybe he was planning on running his car bomb into a crowd?

Can tannerite set of ammonium nitrate? I thought it needed to be mixed with fuel to create ANFO
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:57 pm to
How in the frick do they not know if anyone else went in his room? They have cameras everywhere. This will end up being a case where the government tells us a bunch of bullshite and we never know the truth.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Member since Sep 2009
17143 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:57 pm to
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Can tannerite set of ammonium nitrate


If anyone here knows this, they are either a chemical engineer, or should be on an FBI watch list
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:59 pm to
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there is still plenty to be learned here, and it will come out.



Exactly.

For those who don't remember, the Pulse shooting took place in June 2016. Omar Mateen's wife was arrested in January 2017 on charges of obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting.

For various reasons, these things take time to materialize.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:59 pm to
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government tells us a bunch of bullshite and we never know the truth.


What reason do they not have to tell the truth though? If we never know the truth or anything for that matter, nothing was accomplished. We'll just have no explanation for 50+ casualties and close to 500 injured victims.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3312 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:59 pm to
I can't see why not. If the boom is already there it just adds to the mix.

But I wasn't an EOD guy
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:01 pm to
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They hide under the guise of these guys going underground, If someone was involved they are already fricking underground


What do you expect them to say? Imagine if they told the public ” we are looking for 2 men, one arab and one black, who visited his room earlier on the day of the shooting. That would just cause hysteria in Vegas and do nothing to help the investigation.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42271 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:01 pm to
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Can tannerite set of ammonium nitrate? I thought it needed to be mixed with fuel to create ANFO




Not really sure. I would assume it could but that's probably irresponsible of me
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

lets be honest here.

if this guy was just a deranged old man who acted alone, they would have said so by now.



If the guy was a deranged old man who acted alone, and they had exhausted every lead that would suggest otherwise, then I'd expect them to say so.


Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12344 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
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If anyone here knows this, they are either a chemical engineer, or should be on an FBI watch list


Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:03 pm to
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If the guy was a deranged old man who acted alone, and they had exhausted every lead that would suggest otherwise, then I'd expect them to say so.


I mean they could also hint at it to throw off leads
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:03 pm to
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What reason do they not have to tell the truth though? If we never know the truth or anything for that matter, nothing was accomplished. We'll just have no explanation for 50+ casualties and close to 500 injured victims.



Assuming I understand this correctly, this may be the most reasonable thing I've seen you post in this thread.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:05 pm to
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. yes. was shot in the leg. (oddly, that Paddock decided to shoot someone down low and not high)



Sheriff says he estimates 200 rounds were sent through the door area when the security guard was approaching. One (at least one, they haven't said to my knowledge) hit the security guard in the leg. That's incredible, but he was also spraying like a mad man, so it's believable too.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17143 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:05 pm to
are you asking me if I found the question i responded too offensive? No I didn't at all. And my comment was mostly in jest. I don't think you have to be a chemical engineer or someone who wants to kill people to know that information.

someone did downvote me though, they may have found what I said offensive
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