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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:55 pm to
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Feel like there haven't been any actual "updates" at all recently. Kind of amazing how there is no fricking information coming out, and it pisses me off. You are leaving people in limbo with no knowledge of why this guy did this and that's absolute bullshite, that causes terror more so than if they were to tell us his motive


Who the frick are you to deserve these updates while they're still investigating?

We all want to know more, but getting pissed off at the police about a lack of info is absurd.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:56 pm to
Exactly. I wouldn't even call what I'm seeing "tinfoil", it's just different theories.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Feeding us crumbs of information to help kill momentum and prevent figuring out the real details and facts. I mean they've waited so long to bring us a detailed story that at this point i don't care what they say, I'm just sympathetic to the victims.


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13SaintTiger




I see you're not longer trying to hide your tinfoil hat ways. You put up a decent act for a couple of days though.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5214 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:58 pm to
I guess I could've clarified. It's all coming from the multiple shooter angles. Just seems silly to me. The other stuff I can go song with
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

Who the frick are you to deserve these updates while they're still investigating?


Who the frick are you to get pissed at him for wanting more information about the deadliest mass shooting in the US? Go put your anger to use elsewhere.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
600 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:59 pm to
I have an AR and 200rds in my patrol car. Most of our deputies have rifle and shotgun.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

It’s not an insane concept in that situation.

Yeah, it kinda is. Instead of one guy firing a high powered rifle into a crowd of people, you have two guys firing high powered rifles into crowds of people. Do you think that out of the thousands of rooms in that hotel, the rooms within 100 feet of the shooter's suite all happened to be empty?

Even if a cop was a great shot on the range, this isn't on the range. This would be firing from ground level, trying to hit something a few hundred yards away and at least 300 feet in the air (AND WILL SHOOT BACK). How many cops are trained in that kind of marksmanship?
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

I see you're not longer trying to hide your tinfoil hat ways. You put up a decent act for a couple of days though.


Stfu. Can you go a day without attacking someone?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Who the frick are you to get pissed at him for wanting more information about the deadliest mass shooting in the US? Go put your anger to use elsewhere.


, dude's mad at the investigators, and so are you. A few of you have been wanting a conspiracy since this started and you're mad the police aren't confirming their tinfoil bullshite. It's pathetic.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3336 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

My post was carefully worded. I even mentioned the risk to other hotel patrons which I’m assuming was nil after the firing had been going on for a little bit and mentioned an all bets are off situation. I wasn’t talking about free fire shooting up the hotel. I was talking about LEO grabbing their AR or something similar and putting down a couple of rounds here and there once they knew his position to suppress the guy.


I'll step up and agree with Scoop here and IMHO this situation warranted such a response IF the shooters position was clearly identified. A man sized target from a supported firing position 3-400 yds away is not "firing haphazardly " into a building. It is a measured response to a shooter in the act of killing /wounded HUNDREDS. Given the circumstances I would want any of my qualified marksman in the unit to return fire in a precise and accurate manner if they indeed had the training and were in a position to do so.

The containment of a person firing hundreds of rounds onto a civilian populace far outweighs any potential damage to a single innocent in this type of situation.

Some of you folks need to schedule an OBGYN appointment to have your vajay-jays checked ...


FWIW, to those who are evidently clueless, the drop of a .223 round from a 100 yd zero is roughly 1ft at 300 yds and roughly 2 1/2 ft at 400 yds. So that's not what I would consider spraying rounds haphazardly into a building. The only one spraying rounds Sunday was the nutcase on the 32nd floor.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

dude's mad at the investigators, and so are you. A few of you have been wanting a conspiracy since this started and you're mad the police aren't confirming their tinfoil bullshite. It's pathetic.


I'm not mad at anyone, it's clearly you who's mad with your highly emotional response. You don't know what I think. I want them to confirm something, idc what it is. Furthermore why would someone expect the police to confirm "tinfoil bullshite"? You sound stupid. Keep the thread on track.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:11 pm to
People just need answers.

The more time that passes without answers, the crazier things will get.

Mass shooters in the past 10 years or so have been either obvious lunatics like Lanza and Holmes or religiously motivated shooters like The Pulse shooting, Chattanooga, Ft. Hood and San Bernardino.

A wealthy baby boomer doing this with no answers after almost 72 hours just feeds the beast as far as conspiracy.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30966 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:13 pm to
quote:


Feel like there haven't been any actual "updates" at all recently. Kind of amazing how there is no fricking information coming out, and it pisses me off. You are leaving people in limbo with no knowledge of why this guy did this and that's absolute bullshite, that causes terror more so than if they were to tell us his motives.


The best source of information just rolled up in a wheel chair, after an 18 hour flight from the othersisde of the world. I'm confident they're not shoving the second shooter to an undisclosed island with Michael Jackson, Tupac, and Elvis.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:15 pm to
quote:



I'm not mad at anyone, it's clearly you whose mad with your highly emotional response


I responded to a dude who said the lack of updates "fricking pisses me off", but I'm the emotional one?

The explicit and implicit conspiracy shite is nauseating in this thread.

The investigators need to get any and everyone involved with this massacre. They owe it to the families of the 58 dead people and the 527 injured to get it right.

Despite your bloated sense of importance, they don't owe it to you or others to keep you updated on their entire case while it is STILL ongoing.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9823 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:17 pm to
Has whst was written on the note been released yet?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:18 pm to
FWIW, the LVMPD said they'll have a presser at 5pm local time. Posted on their Twitter an hour ago.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Has whst was written on the note been released yet?




There's been no confirmation whether or not it was a suicide note in the leaked picture.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

A wealthy baby boomer doing this with no answers after almost 72 hours just feeds the beast as far as conspiracy.





Not sure why some people don't/can't understand this
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

I'll step up and agree with Scoop here and IMHO this situation warranted such a response IF the shooters position was clearly identified. A man sized target from a supported firing position 3-400 yds away is not "firing haphazardly " into a building. It is a measured response to a shooter in the act of killing /wounded HUNDREDS. Given the circumstances I would want any of my qualified marksman in the unit to return fire in a precise and accurate manner if they indeed had the training and were in a position to do so.

The containment of a person firing hundreds of rounds onto a civilian populace far outweighs any potential damage to a single innocent in this type of situation.

Some of you folks need to schedule an OBGYN appointment to have your vajay-jays checked ...


FWIW, to those who are evidently clueless, the drop of a .223 round from a 100 yd zero is roughly 1ft at 300 yds and roughly 2 1/2 ft at 400 yds. So that's not what I would consider spraying rounds haphazardly into a building. The only one spraying rounds Sunday was the nutcase on the 32nd floor.



Thank you.

I’m just a numb nuts plinker with my AR and pretty decent with it. No military or LEO training. My entire point was that once his position was established, he could have received suppression fire from the ground that would have been a nominal risk to other hotel patrons.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3336 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:22 pm to
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