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Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to
All the videos I've seen appear to be from well after it happened. Where are you finding the videos? I'm interested in seeing the initial moments to see how people reacted.

Everyone is filming at a concert so I imagine there's tons of videos.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7389 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to
All along I was thinking the way none of this adds up I thought he filmed the entire thing. Just his ability to do this much, set up cameras, etc lead me to believe he had.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91797 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to
Woah. Hopefully it contains a motive.

This shooting has just been insane.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Any extradition protection issues in Philippines?





What crimes are they charging her wih though? If she hasn't already come back or is otherwise in custody, she is gone.


This 8s going to be a deep plot, with the lack of info out there. We are just getting snoppets that point towards possibilities.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4345 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:06 pm to
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In Alabama you do


You must live in a different Alabama than I do.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:07 pm to
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She's a person of interest


The police have no power to compel anyone to answer questions... please see the 5th amendment. Unless they are going to arrest her, they can't force her to come in and talk to them.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5658 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:07 pm to
One of the videos you can hear someone yelling its fireworks and people still standing around and that was after the second round of bullets had finished (100+rounds). First 5 mins they were literally sitting ducks.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45151 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:07 pm to
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What crimes are they charging her wih though? If she hasn't already come back or is otherwise in custody, she is gone.
She's gone? No. Philippine authorities would find her and allow FBI to question her there. Then they could extradite her back to the US if applicable. In the meantime someone here said she's coming back to US tomorrow so doesn't matter really.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39389 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Paddock shot through his door and hit a security guard in the leg.

Why would he shoot so low, as the photo appears to indicate, rather than torso center mass?
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:09 pm to
Extradition Treaty

quote:

Article 2(2) defines an extraditable offense to include also an attempt or a conspiracy to commit, aiding or abetting, counselling, causing or procuring the commission of or being an accessory before or after the fact to an extraditable offense. For such crimes, the Treaty accommodates the differences between U.S. and Philippine criminal law (the Philippines, for example, has no general conspiracy statute) by creating an exception to the general dual-criminality requirement and permitting extradition if the crime is punishable under the laws of the Requesting State by deprivation of liberty for a period of more than one year, or by a more severe penalty, and the underlying offense is an extraditable offense.


Sounds like maybe extradition could be forced on this article.

To be clear, I am no expert on this matter- just my interpretation.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
19327 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:10 pm to
Where are these photos? I've only seen the one of his dead body.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17446 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:10 pm to
Why would he shoot into a crowd of 22000+ people. Don't try to rationalize it.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12721 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:10 pm to
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She is expected back to the U.S. on Wednesday (tomorrow). I have no doubt she was greeted by the FBI yesterday


I'm guessing she's both had conversations with them and will be followed quietly for months at this point
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45151 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

The police have no power to compel anyone to answer questions... please see the 5th amendment. Unless they are going to arrest her, they can't force her to come in and talk to them.
Ok, guess she's good to go then.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:11 pm to
dude was prob high on drugs and or booze. heard knocking from the security guard then just popped a few shots through the door
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77517 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Fox News reporting gunman made video of himself during massacre.




Couple of dipshit conspiracy guys in this thread don't want to see that
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Why would he shoot into a crowd of 22000+ people. Don't try to rationalize it.



Such a cop out line of thought
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:12 pm to
I don't think so, they just want to interview her about him, they are saying she is not a suspect in any crimes, so they cant extradite her, even if she was on US soil, they cant force her to talk to them about his crime.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Sounds like maybe extradition could be forced on this article


Again, only if they are charging her with conspiracy or one of those other things.

Now, the Philipinnes is probably happy to get her and the FBI in a room over there without bringing her back. That wouldnt take much negotiation.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91797 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:13 pm to
Link

This video is insane.


It doesn't start with the first shots. I can tell you that Jason Aldean starts in on a song and sings about 15 seconds of it while the shooter is opening up on the crowd. Then he runs and the crowd is still confused. Then they slowly start figuring out what was happening.
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