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re: Mass casualties (Update 17 deaths ) with the Duck boat ride in Branson, MO
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:38 pm to baldona
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:38 pm to baldona
I will not make judgements on who fricked up big time because I do not know what happened. But taking a vessel that size in those waves parallel to the waves to get in shallow is no easy task. There are tons of things that can happened there and well.
I have been in some very bad storms in my days, like the one in the video, and it is no fun. I do not know the procedure of the tour company about having the windows down but everyone should have had on PFD's as soon as the weather got bad and i would have assumed the captain would have found a sheltered area first before taking on the brunt of the storm like he did. Depending on the load of the vessel, he may not have had the power he needed to keep things in line.
Looks like a lot of things went wrong. It can happen in a second too.
Sad for everyone involved.
I have been in some very bad storms in my days, like the one in the video, and it is no fun. I do not know the procedure of the tour company about having the windows down but everyone should have had on PFD's as soon as the weather got bad and i would have assumed the captain would have found a sheltered area first before taking on the brunt of the storm like he did. Depending on the load of the vessel, he may not have had the power he needed to keep things in line.
Looks like a lot of things went wrong. It can happen in a second too.
Sad for everyone involved.
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:40 pm to LanierSpots
stick a fork in that company. they done
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:41 pm to baldona
Video stopped half way through for me. Reloaded the site and now it's not there.
This is tragic. Not a one of these passengers day would have been ruined because they didn't get to take the Duck Cruise. It's not that important.
Canceling one cruise certainly wouldn't be a death knell to the company...but the lawsuits coming henceforth sure will.
This is tragic. Not a one of these passengers day would have been ruined because they didn't get to take the Duck Cruise. It's not that important.
Canceling one cruise certainly wouldn't be a death knell to the company...but the lawsuits coming henceforth sure will.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:43 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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This is tragic. Not a one of these passengers day would have been ruined because they didn't get to take the Duck Cruise. It's not that important.
Canceling one cruise certainly wouldn't be a death knell to the company...but the lawsuits coming henceforth sure will.
Or at the least cut the ride short by an hour...
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:44 pm to lsufan112001
The driver of the boat died but the captain survived. They found the boat in 80' of water, wow.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:48 pm to tWildcat
Never been on one of these, from pictures, it doesn't seem there is a readily available way to get a PFD..are they located under seats or in a compartment below deck?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:53 pm to tWildcat
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They found the boat in 80' of water, wow.
Not unusual at all. Table Rock is a very similar built lake to the one I captain on. About 40K acres and a max depth of 220. i would imagine the average depth is 60-70 feet if it follows along with Lanier.
There are tons of places where the lake is 80 feet deep right up near the shore.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:57 pm to tWildcat
Family and I was on these Ducks 2 weeks ago. They let children drive the ducks when they are on table rock. So it could of been a 10 year old in the stock photo. I don't know if they did this with this boat since there was a thunderstorm warning but you would think they wouldn't have even went into the lake.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:05 pm to Buffweazel
There's video out from the 2nd duck boat that made it back. The people were half way joking around except the guy making the video, no one had on life jackets, and you can see the inside of the windows and what not. The driver and captain look old as shite, 65+. Also looks like maybe the door is in the rear of the boat?
Twitter video of 2nd duck boat that made it
Twitter video of 2nd duck boat that made it
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:06 pm to lsufan112001
Their liability insurance carrier be like, uh oh
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:08 pm to baldona
Is the other duck boat in the video the one that went under?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:09 pm to tigerpimpbot
My niece from Ascension is up there for a girl's travel softball tourny. She posted some tubing photos from last night. I checked with her this morning and they are all right and she said they didn't know anyone on the boat.
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:18 pm to ThatMakesSense
My family was up there last week, and we rode the ducks. The pfd's are stored in overhead bins. Based on the video, I would think there would have been sufficient time for everyone to have put on their pfd prior to the boat sinking. I find it astonishing that 1.) the captain took the boat into the water, assuming he was aware of incoming weather and/or observed choppy water conditions and 2.) there was seemingly no effort from the passengers to escape once it was apparent the boat was in dire straits.
Even if the captain was instructing passengers to stay seated, remain calm, etc., I think the severity/urgency of the situation becomes fairly evident to even people who have never been on a boat once the boat starts taking on water. It's impossible to know with certainty what I would do in that situation, but I want to think I would have grabbed my family and bailed once we started taking on water and I realized the boat was struggling.
I remember riding the ducks in the Hot Springs, AR area as a kid. When my wife suggested that we do it in Branson, I was all for it. After this incident and what I've subsequently learned about the ducks throughout the U.S. over the last 20 years, I will never step foot on one again.
Even if the captain was instructing passengers to stay seated, remain calm, etc., I think the severity/urgency of the situation becomes fairly evident to even people who have never been on a boat once the boat starts taking on water. It's impossible to know with certainty what I would do in that situation, but I want to think I would have grabbed my family and bailed once we started taking on water and I realized the boat was struggling.
I remember riding the ducks in the Hot Springs, AR area as a kid. When my wife suggested that we do it in Branson, I was all for it. After this incident and what I've subsequently learned about the ducks throughout the U.S. over the last 20 years, I will never step foot on one again.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:30 pm to baldona
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There's video out from the 2nd duck boat that made it back. The people were half way joking around except the guy making the video, no one had on life jackets, and you can see the inside of the windows and what not. The driver and captain look old as shite, 65+. Also looks like maybe the door is in the rear of the boat?
Twitter video of 2nd duck boat that made it
From the other video taken from the big river boat, it looked like the surviving boat was able to make it in alright. Scary obviously, but it didn't look like it was about to go down.
However, you could tell the doomed boat was having issues during the entire video. By the end of the video, you can see it start to get lower and lower into the water.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:36 pm to GetCocky11
The twitter video from inside the surviving duck makes it look like sealed windows. They don’t look like clear plastic. I also don’t think I would have jumped out of the surviving boat based on that video.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:40 pm to lsufan112001
Had to drive past the accident site this morning on the way to work.
We were over on the west side of Table Rock yesterday and that storm moved so fast. The straight line winds were the first to hit us. That was around 6:45 - 7:00 pm.
Prayers for these victims and the rescuers involved.
We were over on the west side of Table Rock yesterday and that storm moved so fast. The straight line winds were the first to hit us. That was around 6:45 - 7:00 pm.
Prayers for these victims and the rescuers involved.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:41 pm to pensacola
Who ever owns that company.....
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:47 pm to pensacola
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Mass casualties (Update 17 deaths ) with the Duck boat ride in Branson, MO
The twitter video from inside the surviving duck makes it look like sealed windows. They don’t look like clear plastic. I also don’t think I would have jumped out of the surviving boat based on that video.
Pretty sure they open and close somehow. I'm assuming they zipper, snap, or something like that. They do look firm, but many of the pictures have the windows open.
The conditions in the video of the 2nd boat IMO are bad enough that at least the children and anyone that couldn't swim should have had on a PFD. I mean what is the harm? I would have had one on my kid I can tell you that.
Like I was saying before although I'm not exactly sure about the floor of a duck boat, but when a boat sinks you get water at your feet and the boat starts wobbling well before it actually goes under. You have some time to prepare. You see how bad the conditions were, then you have water at your feet or coming into the boat at least. The captain should have had the people ready with PFDs and ready to abandon ship well before it actually sank.
I also would not doubt for a second that the evacuation of those boats with the windows up will be a major cause of concern for that many people. I don't see a large door in the front of the boat. So having 30+ people go out that back of a sinking boat may be a major concern.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:56 pm to tWildcat
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So they had warnings all day but according to people in the area it came sooner than expected? Is that right?
My son was at baseball camp over in Branson West. I worked all day and then went over there afterwards to watch the game. Besides Weather.com notifying me about the Iowa tornados, I had no idea about impending storms for our area.
Game started at 6:30, looked up to see dark clouds in the NW and then realized we'd probably not get the game in. got notified that the storm would hit in 6 min. and the straight line winds hit us before we could get to the car.
Storm hit us fast.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:01 pm to baldona
After watching those videos, it's obvious that one boat was worse off than the other. The second boat that made it was flyng past the first one as it essentially tried to tread water. Maybe it had less people or a better engine? The one that sunk seemed to have gotten back on track then all of a sudden started taking on water.
When shite started getting bad, why didn't they get behind the big arse cruise boat? Or get alongside it? I would think it would help break up some of the water.
When shite started getting bad, why didn't they get behind the big arse cruise boat? Or get alongside it? I would think it would help break up some of the water.
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