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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder

Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:07 pm to
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Anytime cops have to take the fifth there is a huge problem


Yea, frick the Constitution. No reason for it to apply to all citizens.

ETA: And I'm sure someone will accuse me of defending the cops for the above statement.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:08 pm to
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This is literally the 1st case I can remember where I think the cops may be in the wrong.


Wow.

Well there is the case where the JPSO shot and killed my cousin who was climbing out from under someone's house in Metairie. He was a plumber with a tool in his hand.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:09 pm to
Jesus. When did that happen?
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Well there is the case where the JPSO shot and killed my cousin who was climbing out from under someone's house in Metairie. He was a plumber with a tool in his hand.



Paid leave?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:10 pm to
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But who do you believe- the marshals who have lied about: -Being shot at -Dodging a car backing up at them -Serving nonexistent warrants -having jurisdiction in the area


Wait is this true? Verified?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:11 pm to
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Paid leave?


Don't remember. I was in grade school at the time. Long time ago. His last name was Herkes.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Jesus. When did that happen?
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Probably 30 years ago. Same shite happens all the time. Trigger happy cops led to that and this incident, IMHO.

When you cary a gun, you have a lot of responsibility.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Yea, frick the Constitution. No reason for it to apply to all citizens.

ETA: And I'm sure someone will accuse me of defending the cops for the above statement.




I was going to, but you edited too quick.

I mean I get the reason behind the fifth, you do not have to implicate yourself in a crime, but as you know once someone locks up and starts pleading the fifth, to the eyes of the law they are usually guilty.
The police officers, if totally clear, should have a report and a story, now they are taking the fifth and refuse to answer, so it is pretty damning to me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Yea, frick the Constitution. No reason for it to apply to all citizens.


Generally speaking (if nothing else) it looks really bad to have government agents essentially admitting that their testimony could incriminate themselves.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:13 pm to
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Generally speaking (if nothing else) it looks really bad to have government agents essentially admitting that their testimony could incriminate themselves.


I don't disagree. But I don't see it any more or less bad than any other person using it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:14 pm to
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The police officers, if totally clear, should have a report and a story, now they are taking the fifth and refuse to answer, so it is pretty damning to me.



I agree.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
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Wait is this true? Verified?


The LSP essentially said:

1)No evidence that the car backed up toward officers.

2)There are no outstanding warrants for Mr Few.

3)No weapon was found at the scene.

Only thing to be verified was if the marshals even had jurisdiction in that ward. Survey is leaning toward no, though LSP hasn't verified that.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:17 pm to
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1)No evidence that the car backed up toward officers.


Wow.....

these guys are in trouble.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:20 pm to
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these guys are in trouble.


You would think so, but remember what and who you are dealing with. I am still leaning towards these guys never facing a petit jury.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:21 pm to



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Wow..... these guys are in trouble.



Also seems that victim had personal conflict with one of the Marshals.
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:21 pm to
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Don't remember. I was in grade school at the time.


Your family lied to you to protect you from knowing your cousin was a tPOS
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:23 pm to
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I mean I get the reason behind the fifth, you do not have to implicate yourself in a crime, but as you know once someone locks up and starts pleading the fifth, to the eyes of the law they are usually guilty.
The police officers, if totally clear, should have a report and a story, now they are taking the fifth and refuse to answer, so it is pretty damning to me.



So Joe Q Public can lawyer up and not give a statement and it cant be held against him but a citizen employed in law enforcement cant
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:26 pm to
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So Joe Q Public can lawyer up and not give a statement and it cant be held against him but a citizen employed in law enforcement cant



Not when they make the claim of "performance of duties" in said shooting.

They already get a 48 hour grace period without being questioned by anyone.

They won't even talk to make an official report of the incident.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:27 pm to
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So Joe Q Public can lawyer up and not give a statement and it cant be held against him but a citizen employed in law enforcement cant



For a person who has sworn to uphold the law to admit his testimony will incriminate himself doesn't look very good.

Are you suggesting you shouldn't hold it against him?

Eta- did you miss the part about them refusing to interview LSP?
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:37 pm to
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For a person who has sworn to uphold the law to admit his testimony will incriminate himself doesn't look very good.


Its everyones right under Miranda to not give a statement

quote:

Are you suggesting you shouldn't hold it against him?
The fact that someone made a split second decision that resulted in the death of a child is plenty reason to make sure you cover your arse

quote:

did you miss the part about them refusing to interview LSP?
Im sure they were going to be mirandized prior to giving a statement to LSP and therefore have a right to not give a statement.

Being convicted in the minds of the public and media is small potatoes to saying something that sends you to prison for life
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