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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder

Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:40 pm to
They are claiming that they shot in "performance of their duties".

No, they shouldn't get same treatment as public.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

They won't even talk to make an official report of the incident.


That's the most damning thing.

Officer, what's your report on the incident?

--Uh, I plead the fifth.

So what happened at the scene

-- The fifth

Why did you stop the man

-- the FIF...


Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:45 pm to
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They are claiming that they shot in "performance of their duties".

No, they shouldn't get same treatment as public.



So they lose their rights when they become police officers?
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:47 pm to
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They won't even talk to make an official report of the incident.


Yea if I was looking at life in prison I wouldnt do a report either.

'You want me to give you a report? Fire me for not doing my job. You want me to give a statement as a witness / suspect? I want my lawyer"
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39859 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:50 pm to
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I just saw that cops need to be held more accountable. The other day a cop comes in here and gives this woe is my friend story, about a fellow cop who killed himself and his family in a murder suicide. Blamed it on the stress of the job. NO, that is a mental issue. Maybe if we better screened the police and were tougher on them, mental cases like that wouldn't be given a badge and a gun. We have to realize that the police are not always right. That is what I take from these threads. It is like some one here only defend the police, no matter what. 95% of all the police are great cops. I know this, but that 95% covers for the 5% all the time. We get on the black youth for the "stop snitching" movement but the thin blue line is the same thing.


Guy in Mandeville almost lost everything last year because a cop and a public servant lied just to get him charges, that stuff happens more than we like to admit, yet it isn't always on camera.
Look at the story in the OP, had the new info not come out, we would have went on blaming the dad for all that happened.
It's not about being anti-cop or wanting anarchy, it's about accountability. If we are going to give select people power above us and the right to get around the law we must follow, then we need to damn well make sure these people are deserving of that right.


Great post. Only mild correction is your Mandeville thing happened in Bogalusa/WP...

LINK

That was truly fricked up and I hope they burn.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:50 pm to
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The fact that someone made a split second decision that resulted in the death of a child is plenty reason to make sure you cover your arse 



Sure it is. Every murderer ever agrees with you.

I am sure you realize their not cooperating will increase pressure on the powers that be to throw the book at these marshals right? There will be a lot less sympathy to cops overall after every cop hater can point to this incident and say look at the child killers hiding behind the badge. It makes all cops look bad.

Still, what you're saying does make good legal advice for them.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:52 pm to
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So they lose their rights when they become police officers?

They gain the ability to police the public, in that ability they have to be held accountable for their actions and at least file a damn report without pleading the fifth.

The thin Blue line everyone, this generation's "stop snitching" movement.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:53 pm to
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Yea if I was looking at life in prison I wouldnt do a report either.


If you are a police officer who does his duties you should never be looking at life in prison.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:54 pm to
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Great post. Only mild correction is your Mandeville thing happened in Bogalusa/WP...



My bad, everything Northshore is either Hammond, Mandeville or Slidell to me, sorry.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73645 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:54 pm to
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They gain the ability to police the public, in that ability they have to be held accountable for their actions and at least file a damn report without pleading the fifth


Exactly.

Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:58 pm to
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hiding behind the badge.


I really dont see how they can be accused of this. If anything the "badge' is the one coming after these guys to send them to prison.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:00 pm to
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I really dont see how they can be accused of this. If anything the "badge' is the one coming after these guys to send them to prison.



Had this been me, Joe Q. Napoleon. Who randomly fired a gun into a truck and shot it's occupants and killed a kid. Would I be free or in jail right now?

Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:00 pm to
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They gain the ability to police the public, in that ability they have to be held accountable for their actions and at least file a damn report without pleading the fifth.

The thin Blue line everyone, this generation's "stop snitching" movement.



Your anti police attitude has your view on this tainted. There is no thin blue line protection here. On the surface this is commissioned officers that fricked up and arent cooperating with a legit investigation. nobody is covering or protecting these guys except themselves.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:01 pm to
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I really dont see how they can be accused of this.


So you don't think they will say their actions were justified under the performance of their duties? That their badge justified their actions? How is that not hiding behind the badge again? You know- the same one every cop wears on duty?

How else do you explain killing a six year on duty if it wasn't in line with their job?
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:02 pm to
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If you are a police officer who does his duties you should never be looking at life in prison.


If I was a police officer and shot at a bad guy in a moment where I felt my life was in danger I damn sure would be scared of going to prison. My thoughts and feeling at the time cant be shown or proved to a jury.
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Had this been me, Joe Q. Napoleon. Who randomly fired a gun into a truck and shot it's occupants and killed a kid. Would I be free or in jail right now?



Depends. Is Joe P Napoleon supposed to carrying a gun and enforcing laws?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299704 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:05 pm to
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They won't even talk to make an official report of the incident.


That's the most damning thing.


Where is the "if you didn't do anything wrong, you should cooperate" crowd?
Posted by Rosco P Coletrain
Hazzard County
Member since Sep 2009
1131 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:05 pm to
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So you don't think they will say their actions were justified under the performance of their duties? That their badge justified their actions? How is that not hiding behind the badge again?


Who is they? The ones involved? Certainly they will. The ones investigating? They will take the evidence and information they have and make a decision based on facts according to the law
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Your anti police attitude has your view on this tainted. There is no thin blue line protection here. On the surface this is commissioned officers that fricked up and arent cooperating with a legit investigation. nobody is covering or protecting these guys except themselves.

Your occupation of choice has your view on this tainted, these guys killed an innocent kid and you are still defending them.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74261 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:06 pm to
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supposed to carrying a gun


It's Louisiana I can carry a gun on me at all times if I choose to do so.

Again, had I fired without reason into a vehicle would I be in jail right now?

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