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Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:07 pm to Rex
Drug reform people are douche bags. Not that I disagree though.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:08 pm to Rex
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Well, widespread support by doctors would seem to be the impetus for legalization, and I eagerly await it.
Well, when the AMA asks for my opinion, I'll gladly let you know.
But this has nothing to do with your original premise that doctors are profiting from scheduled medications, which is totally unfounded.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:12 pm to Dale Murphy
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:15 pm to Rex
And Big Pharma is hedging their bet and meeting with Monsanto, ConAgra and the Cartels to plan mass production and distribution of weed here in the US...more money, more money into both outstretched hands
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:16 pm to Dale Murphy
i'm gonna have to agree with Rex that big pharm still finds ways to entice certain MD's.
once a diagnosis is made, seldom will another Dr. disagree with it.
once a diagnosis is made, seldom will another Dr. disagree with it.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:17 pm to Rex
All I can do is speak from personal experience. Less than 10% of the pharm reps deal with scheduled meds, i.e. the ones your initial link discussed. As someone else mentioned earlier, xanax, norco, etc., all have generics so there's no money in them anymore. If anything, providers are making money now on those meds because during Obama's term, we are extremely limited on the number of refills we can write for those medications thereby requiring more visits from those patients. So maybe you want to start throwing your hero under the bus.
Also Rex, I said SCHEDULED medications. That link encompasses all medications. Find me some info on just how much I'm profiting from narcotics, please.
Also Rex, I said SCHEDULED medications. That link encompasses all medications. Find me some info on just how much I'm profiting from narcotics, please.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:18 pm to Rebel
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i'm gonna have to agree with Rex that big pharm still finds ways to entice certain MD's.
Never said they didn't. We're talking about those 5 meds that marijuana would replace. I've yet to see any pharm rep coming around talking about Norco or Xanax. There's just no money in it anymore.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:20 pm to Rebel
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once a diagnosis is made, seldom will another Dr. disagree with it.
And I'll also disagree with this. I've had plenty of patients with a previous diagnosis of "rheumatoid arthritis". I work them up and there's no evidence. It's simply osteoarthritis which requires a completely different area of therapy.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:22 pm to lsunurse
People with generalized anxiety disorder or adhd take meds daily as the symptoms occur around the clock. Are you suggesting that marijuana once per week or so will suffice?
People with major depression require maintainence meds for a year or so. Is it being suggested that occasional use of mj will prevent relapses?
That would all be great news. Where are the studies? I need more than anecdotes and wishful thinking based on info from advocates before I believe.
Btw, I have no problem with legalization, especially if it cuts funding to the larger illicit drug trade.
People with major depression require maintainence meds for a year or so. Is it being suggested that occasional use of mj will prevent relapses?
That would all be great news. Where are the studies? I need more than anecdotes and wishful thinking based on info from advocates before I believe.
Btw, I have no problem with legalization, especially if it cuts funding to the larger illicit drug trade.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:23 pm to Dale Murphy
i guess i should have read more than a few responses. most dr's would rather avoid opiates.
it's the stuff like Lyrica, gabapentin, and other anti-depressants that are the high profit items for big pharm.
it's the stuff like Lyrica, gabapentin, and other anti-depressants that are the high profit items for big pharm.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:24 pm to Rex
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Well, widespread support by doctors would seem to be the impetus for legalization, and I eagerly await it.
Have you ever had a conversation with someone who's against legal weed, be it on a political level or some deep personal vendetta? It's easily one of the oddest things I've experienced. I have a hard time relating with them because the concept of telling what plants an adult can, and can not consume is completely foreign to me.
I'm curious to see how the police and prison guard unions will respond to widespread legalization.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:29 pm to Rebel
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i'm gonna have to agree with Rex that big pharm still finds ways to entice certain MD's.
When is the last time a pharmaceutical company sent out reps for the meds mentioned in Rex's link?
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once a diagnosis is made, seldom will another Dr. disagree with it.
Like which? If you've got high blood pressure, you've got high blood pressure. Lose the weight or if it's not amenable to that, take a $4 medicine. Same for diabetes. Same for elevated cholesterol.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:30 pm to Dale Murphy
The link you provided includes payments to investors for royalties and to teaching hospitals for training purposes. The average everyday physician with "boots on the ground" and hands on actual patients gets jack diddly squat from pharma. They can't even give us sticky note pads, or ink pens now.
The main reason most docs even allow Reps in the office is to acquire samples for less fortunate patients.
The main reason most docs even allow Reps in the office is to acquire samples for less fortunate patients.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:33 pm to Bleeding purple
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The link you provided includes payments to investors for royalties and to teaching hospitals for training purposes. The average everyday physician with "boots on the ground" and hands on actual patients gets jack diddly squat from pharma. They can't even give us sticky note pads, or ink pens now.
The main reason most docs even allow Reps in the office is to acquire samples for less fortunate patients.
Whatever. Rex knows more about what we get from big pharma than we do.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:34 pm to Rebel
Gabapentin is the generic for neurontin. No promotion for that from pharma.
I have a buddy who is a rheumatologist and he'd love to be free of the patients where lyrica is indicated.
I have a buddy who is a rheumatologist and he'd love to be free of the patients where lyrica is indicated.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:35 pm to Dale Murphy
Link also included medical device spending.
MJ will work in place of that knee replacement you need. Just stay at home on the couch and toke. Lol
MJ will work in place of that knee replacement you need. Just stay at home on the couch and toke. Lol
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:35 pm to Dale Murphy
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Rex knows more about what we get from big pharma than we do.
No, I don't. What I know is that your most ubiquitous and famous professional organization still supports criminalization... and good people such as yourself COULD do something about that.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 5:40 pm to Rex
The AMA also supported obamacare. I don't think many doctors consider it "their" organization.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:17 pm to Rebel
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once a diagnosis is made, seldom will another Dr. disagree with it.
You people are talking out your arse.
Second opinions never happen? Jesus. Get real.
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it's the stuff like Lyrica, gabapentin, and other anti-depressants that are the high profit items for big pharm.
Maybe you just phrased this poorly, but lyrica and gabapentin aren't even antidepressants. And gaba is a generic
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 8:21 pm
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