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re: Mandeville to consider banning smoking in bars
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:48 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:48 pm to wildtigercat93
There's a lot of anger coming from the smoking side in this thread.
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:49 pm to wildtigercat93
The thread yesterday calling out smoking is just one glorious example of how defensive and whiny smokers get when called out on their bullshite.
They know smoking has no redeeming medical value whatsoever. It's not even neutral at all. And they still choose to whine and lash out like a motherfricker when people give them shite for willingly putting tar and rat poison in their lungs.
They know smoking has no redeeming medical value whatsoever. It's not even neutral at all. And they still choose to whine and lash out like a motherfricker when people give them shite for willingly putting tar and rat poison in their lungs.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:53 pm to NIH
There's been ad hominem on both sides, that's a glass house to throw from
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:53 pm to Sentrius
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The thread yesterday calling out smoking is just one glorious example of how defensive and whiny smokers get when called out on their bullshite.
They know smoking has no redeeming medical value whatsoever. It's not even neutral at all. And they still choose to whine and lash out like a motherfricker when people give them shite for willingly putting tar and rat poison in their lungs.
But it's their right to do so and subject everyone around to the hazards too :sarcasm:
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:53 pm to Sentrius
Well that was a thread to troll smokers so of course people got rilled up 
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:54 pm to wildtigercat93
Not really. It's pretty easy to spot who is actually mad in these threads.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:54 pm to TigernMS12
Non smokers are the ones that are pretending to protect their "right" but you keep projecting that lie on the other side of the argument even tho I've debunked that 1000 times
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:55 pm to NIH
Look through this thread and you can find plenty of examples of both sides getting emotional and pissy. Denying that is just dishonest
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:57 pm to wildtigercat93
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There's been ad hominem on both sides, that's a glass house to throw from
I'll just say that it's clear there is two sides to this coin and an argument to made for both. Just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:58 pm to wildtigercat93
You're starting to seem mad
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:59 pm to NIH
I've been perfectly calm throughout this whole thing. I've purposefully avoided using a lot of verbal assaults and fallacies of that nature to avoid the argument becoming a "you mad?" Type bullshite argument.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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Nope and nope. I don't smoke. I don't usually go to smoking bars (there aren't many in BR anyway). I've explained this plenty of time but you keep acting ignorant to it because it doesn't fit your argument
So you are just practicing for law school or your debate team, and don't really give a shite. You're just being contrary?
The bars have a loophole. I do not pretend to know how it works money wise but here places can be "cigar bars". Not sure how hookah lounges fit either. That may be a fad that just goes away.
But this exact same blathering took place when the ban was placed in Houston. It will end the same. The fact remains that another's persons smoking effects me and others. The smell is everywhere. It gets everywhere. This is done just by the very act of smoking. Drinking on the other hand effects people only if I choose to do a few things incorrectly. Drink to excess and then drive or become belligerent.
I can open a beer and nobody would know. I light a cigarette, everybody within ten feet knows. This only gets worse as I smoke the cigarette.
The argument "just go to non smoking places" is wrong where Houston was concerned in late 2000's. There were no places that were non smoking.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Isn't there a smoking ban in NOLA bars now? How did that pan out?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:02 pm to wildtigercat93
That's awesome. What law schools have you applied to ?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Well said.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:07 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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you are just practicing for law school or your debate team, and don't really give a shite. You're just being contrary?
I have many opinions on subjects that don't directly effect me. I'm sure you do too. If not liking overregulation is being a contrarian is than sign me up.
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The bars have a loophole. I do not pretend to know how it works money wise but here places can be "cigar bars". Not sure how hookah lounges fit either. That may be a fad that just goes away.
Without the ban, no one needs a loophole. People can make choices and businesses will adjust and there will only be a small amount of businesses that allow smoking anyway, what scares you about allowing a niche market to survive? If you had 100 bars in a city, and 10 of them were smoking bars, would you try to shut those 10 down? Or just live your life and go to one of the 90 non smoking bar options you have and let smokers enjoy their bar? Everybody wins, isn't that what we aim for in government?
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But this exact same blathering took place when the ban was placed in Houston. It will end the same. The fact remains that another's persons smoking effects me and others. The smell is everywhere. It gets everywhere. This is done just by the very act of smoking. D
Again none of these effects happen if you avoid smoking bars.
Unless you want to argue that smoking should be completely banned everywhere
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can open a beer and nobody would know. I light a cigarette, everybody within ten feet knows. This only gets worse as I smoke the cigarette.
all of those people surrounding you chose to go to that establishment where smoking is allowed. No one is forcing them to go there.
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The argument "just go to non smoking places" is wrong where Houston was concerned in late 2000's. There were no places that were non smokin
If there's no non smoking bars (I call bullshite), then there's a huge market opportunity and you should stop arguing with me on TD and go start a bar and make millions.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:08 pm to NIH
None. Just a guy with an opinion.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:08 pm to LSU alum wannabe
All of your points are quite irrelevant. This all just comes down to who actually believes in freedom and those that don't.
It's just sad that today most people do not believe in freedom, even though they will adamantly deny it.
It's just sad that today most people do not believe in freedom, even though they will adamantly deny it.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:10 pm to wildtigercat93
IIRC, you are/were a bartender. What do you think economic effects would be on either side?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:10 pm to Honky Lips
Yayyyyyy nanny state!
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