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re: Man stuck in Alaska mud flats drowns as tide comes in.

Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:34 am to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:34 am to
Never know where quicksand is. I was plant collecting between homer and haynesville and in a real sandy area. Small pond. Stepped next to the water line and sunk up to my knees in an instant. Lucky I fell backwards and pulled myself out sans boots
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:36 am to
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Stepped next to the water line and sunk up to my knees in an instant. Lucky I fell backwards and pulled myself out sans boots


there's a lot of quicksand in N. La
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27714 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:40 am to
Makes me think of people who drown in grain silos. What a terrible way to go.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98381 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:45 am to
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Turnagain Arm


Named by Captain WIlliam Bligh, of HMS Bounty fame. As part of Captain Cook's expedition to find a Northwest Passage, he named it in frustration after it proved to be yet another dead end.

Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:47 am to
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Makes me think of people who drown in grain silos. What a terrible way to go.


Yep. Any movement causes you to sink even further until you suffocate. Folks need to wear a harness and have a partner nearby if they ever need to go into a silo.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:47 am to
Seems like s snorkel device with about a 100' hose and a float up top with an air entrance could be a workable thing?

Although the panic of being stuck underwater and breathing through a snorkel for a few hours might really suck.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:48 am to
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Although the panic of being stuck underwater and breathing through a snorkel for a few hours might really suck.



we're talking about water that was ice just a few hours ago, hypothermia baw
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:48 am to
Or a dive helmet with a small dingy and air pump system?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:49 am to
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we're talking about water that was ice just a few hours ago, hypothermia baw


True, didn't think it all the way through.


Probably better to die than live through that and lose all your limbs to frostbite.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98381 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:50 am to
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Makes me think of people who drown in grain silos. What a terrible way to go.


One of my cousins was married to a guy who suffocated inside a pressure vessel he was inspecting. They forgot to purge the argon gas before he went in. It took about ten seconds for him to lose conciousness. His harness got hung up on something and they couldn't pull him out. The two guys who went in and tried to rescue him nearly died as well.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:51 am to
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Probably better to die than live through that and lose all your limbs to frostbite.



it would absolutely be a horrible way to go
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98381 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:53 am to
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we're talking about water that was ice just a few hours ago, hypothermia baw


Yeah that water is about 38 degrees year round.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11832 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:56 am to
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Were they stayin across the bay


they call it sunshine point... not sure on the real name, but my dad knows them from high school. But there are three houses that were homestead land that buts up to the national forest.

i havent been there since the late '80s but my dads oldest brother has lived in kenai/nikiski area since late '60s, his wife's family were also homesteaders

Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
594 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:56 am to
There was an article that mentioned some rigs that are basically a heated wet suit and oxygen supply. Even then, the person stuck has to calm down enough to breathe through the apparatus properly and there's a point of water depth where you can't get that rig on the person.

Confined spaces are no joke too. So many stories of multiple fatalities because no one realizes why the first, second, or third person didn't come back up.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
594 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:00 am to
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when we were up there my wife wanted to go the the restaurant that had the replica of the bus from the movie Into the Wild, I don't know if I'd ever heard the story before that, found out all about it while we were there, of course we had to watch the movie when we got home, everyone seems to consider that dude a folk hero of some sort, I think he was a dumbass, among other things


Christopher McCandless. He's a folk hero to anyone outside of Alaska. Alaskans share your view. He came out there wholly unprepared and didn't listen to anybody's warnings. There has to be hundreds of locales in the contiguous US where he could have gone off grid, but he chose to go outside of that to the most inhospitable wilderness the US has to offer.
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
2963 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:12 am to
Christopher McCandless. He's a folk hero to anyone outside of Alaska. Alaskans share your view. He came out there wholly unprepared and didn't listen to anybody's warnings. There has to be hundreds of locales in the contiguous US where he could have gone off grid, but he chose to go outside of that to the most inhospitable wilderness the US has to offer.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:31 am to
It. will be quick. there is about 15 feet of tide there
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6095 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:36 am to
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mother nature is perennially on the rag in AK, not to be fricked with


Best description of nature is:

"nature is not cruel it is indifferent. It doesn't care".
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 11:38 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21983 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:02 pm to
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Oof, could they invest in some sort of air pump so the person can breath underwater?
So they'd just die of hypothermia instead from being submerged in 40 degree water for hours
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31329 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Surprised they don't keep oxygen tanks on hand for this type of situation.


Wouldn't even need oxygen tanks, just a really long snorkel.

ETA: Now seeing the subsequent posts about water temp. Definitely best to just stay off.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 12:08 pm
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