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re: Man Shoots AR-15 Against His Nose To Show How Little Kick It Has
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:01 am to CptRusty
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:01 am to CptRusty
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Like maybe "unicorn fart rainbow slinger"?
I see you have no desire to be practical. If you can't see that the marketing of the AR-15 and the AR-15 name itself is troublesome for its future, I'm not sure I can help you.
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stop building them to look so intimidating
no.
You're entitled to do as you see fit here, but I'm just pointing out that no one has a problem with a Remington 750 or other hunting rifles because they look like hunting rifles.
Most of the kickback against the AR-15 is illogical and based in feelings more than fact, but if you're going to get your way, you'd do better to appeal to those same feelings.
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:02 am to ForeverLSU02
quote:50 cal. Used in WWII fighter planes to shoot down other planes, now in some really bad arse sniper guns.
It's the one all the way to the right. Duh
$10 to see that Hells Angel looking dude shoot a 50 cal against his nose
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:04 am to Winkface
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I probably get reported for being threatening and then she'd probably claim ptsd.
Maybe you shouldn't be such an intimidating hardass?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:06 am to Winkface
quote:So you're scared of HR?
I probably get reported for being threatening and then she'd probably claim ptsd.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:06 am to soccerfüt
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soccerfut
Man you got trashed for being an idiot and you left this thread with the quickness. Thanks for playing...
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:07 am to CptRusty
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Are they advocating for the commission of murder in their advertisements?
The gun is marketed as a bad-arse addition to the collection of any real gun enthusiast.
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All of these "scary" features have a functional purpose, mostly ergonomic. In other words they make the weapon more comfortable to shoot, it has nothing to do with making the gun "look intimidating"
Yet none of them are required on traditional rifles and no one bats an eye at those. Again, I understand why they exist, but when your argument is that customizing it to the hilt makes it more comfortable and easier to shoot accurately for long periods of time, you're not going to win any brownie points with the anti-AR-15 crowd. They hear that and think you're making it more efficient and comfortable for shooting people.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:15 am to slackster
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slackster
You are doing good work here, Young Man.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:18 am to LCA131
quote:a damn good reason to own AR 15s.
LCA131
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:18 am to slackster
Well people buy them because they look cool. I don't think they'd sell as many if they changed the appearance. It's supply and demand.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:21 am to tke857
Wasnt these guns banned until 2005 and once the ban lifted there have been double the number of mass shootings as they have been prior to 2005 within the same time range?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:21 am to cwil177
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I don't know a ton about weapons but I would think a rifle with a larger magazine would be more dangerous than a hand gun.
To me it's six and a half dozen. You have deadlier ammunition with the AR, but you have greater concealability with a pistol.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:21 am to slackster
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Another tip would be to stop building them to look so intimidating.
You seem reasonable until you get to these points. Isn't this all relative? Wasn't Dirty Harry's gun "intimidating" looking?
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Lastly, you can't rebuff gun control activists by saying the AR-15 isn't any more dangerous than a hand gun, a hunting rifle, or a shotgun when the AR-15 is, for some reason, the gun of choice for most recent mass shootings.
Well, you can say that the weapons are not used in large numbers of crimes and these weapons result in an infinitesimal number of fatalities compared to handguns, though, right? Because that's accurate. While perhaps overrepresented in high profile terrorist incidents and evil spree shooters, handguns kill more folks in a year in places like Chicago, L.A., D.C., etc., than long guns kill in decades.
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Why is the AR-15 being used more than its "more dangerous" counterparts?
It isn't and this impression is being pushed for an agenda. They can't demonize handguns because, despite effective prohibition in places, they still find ways to kill thousands. The rifles are targeted by the government and press for a very specific reason.
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:23 am to LCA131
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You are doing good work here, Young Man.
I just have a problem when people on either side cannot be reasonable. I've heard many people tout high-capacity magazines and the AR-15 as an important tool in the coming Battle Royale with the US Government, arguing that if the military can have their weapons, civilians need a comparable line of defense. Then those same people turn around and try to argue that the AR-15 is unfairly criticized by gun control advocates and it isn't any more dangerous than hand guns or a shot gun.
I just want people to come to grips with the fact that the AR-15, for a litany of reasons, is the weapon of choice for most mass murders. There is no need to speculate on whether a shotgun is more dangerous because it isn't the gun being used most of the time. Even if a shotgun would be more effective, mass murderers aren't attracted to it for whatever reason.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:25 am to tke857
BOSS
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:27 am to slackster
We can't judge people based on their looks but you can judge a gun based on its looks...
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:32 am to Ace Midnight
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You seem reasonable until you get to these points. Isn't this all relative? Wasn't Dirty Harry's gun "intimidating" looking?
Sure, but go to Google Images and search AR-15. Then search for Colt 1911 or Remington 750. Can we not be reasonable about which one looks worse to the average Joe? Which one looks like a military-grade assault rifle?
Again, no issues with someone who wants to do that to their weapon, but don't act surprised when you get public pushback.
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Well, you can say that the weapons are not used in large numbers of crimes and these weapons result in an infinitesimal number of fatalities compared to handguns, though, right? Because that's accurate. While perhaps overrepresented in high profile terrorist incidents and evil spree shooters, handguns kill more folks in a year in places like Chicago, L.A., D.C., etc., than long guns kill in decades.
I'm aware of what types of guns are responsible for more deaths. I also understand the practicality of a hand gun for self defense. I understand a hunting rifle for hunting. However, when you want to kill as many people as possible with a gun, people turn to an AR-15. There is really no denying that it is a highly-effective and efficient killing machine. If you want to own one, that is perfectly fine, but I'm tired of people arguing that an AR-15 isn't anymore dangerous than any other weapon.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:34 am to slackster
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Sure, but go to Google Images and search AR-15. Then search for Colt 1911 or Remington 750. Can we not be reasonable about which one looks worse to the average Joe? Which one looks like a military-grade assault rifle?
Nah, the average Joe knows whats up. The stupid, vocal minority are the ones who don't. They make the most noise though
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:34 am to mylsuhat
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We can't judge people based on their looks but you can judge a gun based on its looks...
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:35 am to slackster
Why do we make cars that look like this:
After all, most high speed car accidents happen in some type of sports car. Why do we need cars that have the capability to exceed the speed limit? They are inherently more dangerous, and they look like they go really fast.
After all, most high speed car accidents happen in some type of sports car. Why do we need cars that have the capability to exceed the speed limit? They are inherently more dangerous, and they look like they go really fast.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:36 am to mylsuhat
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We can't judge people based on their looks but you can judge a gun based on its looks...
The general public sure as shite does. That picture RogerTheShrubber posted is comical because it is accurate. That is how the AR-15 is portrayed. You can argue until you're blue in the face that all of those descriptions are incorrect, or you can acknowledge the fact that the AR-15 is a scary looking gun to the average American, and the more times it is used in mass murders, the more scary it will look. These people don't care about facts, and if you try to win the war of public opinion using facts, you'll lose.
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