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re: Man Killed After Being 'Sucked' Into MRI Machine

Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2515 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:33 pm to
I doubt it. He was probably crushed between the tank and the machine
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16682 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:44 pm to
When the magnet quenches it liquifies air by the magnet. Maybe someone quenched it and finished him off.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:48 pm to
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I used to work in MRI. I have a BS. If you quench the magnet it can actually destroy the building. Look up some YouTube vids of it happening. That magnet is always on. Ain't no 100k fix either.


Damage to the magnet room is kind of rare, it happens when the cryogen vent is improperly installed or is defective in some way which allows the super cooled and expanding helium gas to vent into the room instead of out vent. The sudden increase in room pressure can buckle walls, and blow down ceilings. I was involved in one vent failure, the cost of the room damage, and ramping the magnet was around $250K. In that case the vent failure was caused by a defect in the vent piping and the manufacture eventually paid the bill. Recovery from a quench with no damage, or unusual magnet issues can be done for under a $100K if a manufacturer does it. If you contract it out to a non OEM service provider it can be done for under $50k, usually way under.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:04 pm to
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When the magnet quenches it liquifies air by the magnet. Maybe someone quenched it and finished him off.


MRI magnets are mostly of superconducting design. They require liquid helium to maintain the very low (-452F) temperature needed for the magnet coils to be superconductive. To quench a magnet a small amount of heat is generated inside the magnet which starts a reaction that rapidly vaporizes the liquid helium inside the magnet into helium gas. When a quantity of liquid is turned to gas the volume increases greatly, rather than letting this expanding gas be trapped in the magnet resulting in a explosion, a elaborate venting system is used to vent the expanding gas outside the magnet room. Under normal circumstances no gas of any kind will escape into the magnet room during a magnet quench. There have been a relatively small number of cases where the vent system has failed during a quench.

I know, TMI!
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39265 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:06 pm to
How do magnets work again?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31201 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1286 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:55 pm to
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$50-100 grand if it can be recovered, there is a small chance of permanent damage, then it could be $500k-750K to replace the magnet.


I thought these things were a couple million?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:18 pm to
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I thought these things were a couple million?


That is for the initial purchase of the entire system, just the physical magnet without the rest of the system is probably in the neighbor hood of $300k, but it depends on if it is new or used and who you buy it from. Then there is the labor and other expenses involved in physically replacing it, many variables involved.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103914 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:09 am to
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If he was in between the bottle and the magnet, like if his back were to the machine and he was carrying the bottle with both hands across his body, it wouldn't matter if he let it go. If it was pulling the bottle against his center of mass, once the magnet had enough pull on the bottle to break his footing and start pulling him toward the machine, it would be all over in the blink of an eye.


Is it bad that I hope liveleak gets video footage of this?
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 7:13 am to
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How did he inhale liquid oxygen?

It's in India.

Ask Dr. Pvnrt
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:02 am to
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It's in India.

Ask Dr. Pvnrt


ISWYDT

Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15337 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:03 am to
Those signs are there for reason.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17446 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:04 am to
Stupid, stupid, stupid

A magnet used to pick up cars in a junkyard is 1 Tesla. That MRI machine was prob 1.5 Tesla.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 9:07 am
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