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re: Man Demonstrates A Big Flaw In 911's Jet Fuel Argument

Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by 16Capt
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
I love when people show how little they know about building collapses and the effect of extreme heat on steel structural supports. And then they're certain about what they don't know. You can't reason with people who disregard reason.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:10 pm to
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What do you think my stance on 9/11 is...?


going by what I've seen you post about Syria I'm guessing your stance is it was a planned false flag attack led by a cabal of Jewish bankers and multi national corporations.
Posted by AndyCBR
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:11 pm to
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Oh ok, so that's why the building collapsed vertically, demolition style. Because the steel was weak and therefore bent over and the building fell....wait..


With gravity acting straight down where else would you expect a pancake collapse to happen?

If hit by a jet should a building of that size tip over like a felled tree?

I don't think you have a grasp of the mass of the buildings in question.

Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5325 posts
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:11 pm to
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Oh ok, so that's why the building collapsed vertically, demolition style. Because the steel was weak and therefore bent over and the building fell....wait..


Sigh.... It would have bent if that was the way the force was pushing. But in a building the steel would heat up. Gravity would take over. The floors above the impact would provide shite tons of downward pressure and that is the way it would fall.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:12 pm to
I have to defer to the experts, but Building 7 has always seemed like a load of shite to me.

Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:12 pm to
None of this matters anyway because nothing is real... we're all just part of the matrix.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:14 pm to
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arguing that it didn't "melt" but bended which makes no sense to say


Let me guess....you think metal is just as strong no matter the temprature right up to the melting point, where it liquifies like you just popped a ballon.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Saw it posted on FB. People arguing that it didn't "melt" but bended which makes no sense to say


actually you are wrong...my buddy who is a mechanical engineer was with me when we were watching 911 live that morning...his exact words, 'give it an hour or two those buildings are coming down' 'the floor supports wont hold up to the heat'

and if you go to the plans of the building you will see that only 2 5/8ths inch bolts held each floor support at the main framing exterior and interior, it is not a stretch at all to know that heat would have eventually weakened the floor support mount to the point of ripping away and then a cascade failure occurred from added weight.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Oh ok, so that's why the building collapsed vertically, demolition style. Because the steel was weak and therefore bent over and the building fell....wait..


It was supported on the external walls solely, with no central support column.


The center of mass was in the middle.

Do the math.
Posted by Poncho
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:23 pm to
I'd like to know where OBUMMER was that morning, if you know what I mean...
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:27 pm to
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I have to defer to the experts, but Building 7 has always seemed like a load of shite to me.


As the center of Tower 1 came down it blew some of the support columns out. Think about a 1300ft tall building and those columns could go a good distance. Some of the columns hit neighboring buildings. Here's the Banker's Trust building on the opposite side from Bldg 7 (you can see the trail of the column going along the ground and the hole it made into the building):



Bldg 7 was also consumed by fire which had gotten to a point where firefighters gave up on trying to contain it.

Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8534 posts
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:28 pm to
no

you people are the loons
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:28 pm to
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With gravity acting straight down where else would you expect a pancake collapse to happen?
Even the government has moved away from the pancake theory. They've updated the propaganda, where have you been?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:29 pm to
Then why is their footage of police asking people to move so they can blow Building 7 down?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:29 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:32 pm to
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I have to defer to the experts, but Building 7 has always seemed like a load of shite to me.




Dude, it's a towering inferno. Why can't you see that?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66195 posts
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:33 pm to
Well, that was Silverstein saying they made a decision to "pull it," which truthers said was proof of demo. But, then I think it was explained he meant pulling firefighters out. If you're into the truther/demo thing, it actually makes sense that the building with all of those government agencies and Rudy's double secret reinforced bunker would be the operations center. But, if that's the case, then from where/how did they blow up WTC7?
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Then why is their footage of police asking people to move so they can blow Building 7 down?


there's not
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Then why is their footage of police asking people to move so they can blow Building 7 down?


Never seen that. I think there was some video going around with people talking about "pulling it down" as in using cables to bring the building down in a specific direction away from nearby structures... basically to control where it went when it fell.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:36 pm to
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actually you are wrong...my buddy who is a mechanical engineer was with me when we were watching 911 live that morning...his exact words, 'give it an hour or two those buildings are coming down' 'the floor supports wont hold up to the heat'
How did those super humans die, then? The ones that were frantically waving from the windows on the floors that won't hold up to such extreme heat?
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