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Made my first trip down Nicholson and Burbank this weekend...Damn
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:29 pm
has the student population of LSU doubled?
burbank is one massive shite show with what seemed like 6-7 major apartment complexes
nicholson, esp at ben hur, was stock full of similar complexes
hell, with that huge neighborhood out by u-club, has the population of BR itself gone up like 33-50%?
i'm getting old but i don't know how LSU housed all of its students in 2001 when it had a handful of large complexes (sterling, the commons, etc)...either that or the occupancy rate on these new complexes are low as shite or filled with non-students
burbank is one massive shite show with what seemed like 6-7 major apartment complexes
nicholson, esp at ben hur, was stock full of similar complexes
hell, with that huge neighborhood out by u-club, has the population of BR itself gone up like 33-50%?
i'm getting old but i don't know how LSU housed all of its students in 2001 when it had a handful of large complexes (sterling, the commons, etc)...either that or the occupancy rate on these new complexes are low as shite or filled with non-students
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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has the student population of LSU doubled?
It has gone up, but no... and Tiger Land is turning into a section 8 ghetto, so the students need to live somewhere.
The two big ones at Burbank & Ben Hur aren't open yet.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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occupancy rate on these new complexes are low as shite or filled with non-students
maybe one of those.
the area around lsu is one giant condo/apt complex
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
The TOPS effect
https://www.businessreport.com/article/the-tops-effect
Most of this higher end housing popped up soon after the TOPS program started. Tuition money was spent on housing.
https://www.businessreport.com/article/the-tops-effect
Most of this higher end housing popped up soon after the TOPS program started. Tuition money was spent on housing.
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In its initial year of 1989, TOPS funded $54 million in tuition for 24,163 students; in the 2014-2015 academic year, the program cost $270 million for the benefit of more than 50,000 students. Forty percent of the recipients attend LSU. The next cost estimate is $300 million annually.
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When the Taylor Opportunity Program for Students was created by the Legislature more than 20 years ago, the idea was to keep Louisiana’s best and brightest students in the state. Not only has TOPS kept them here, but it is has kept them well—often in spiffy new digs tricked out with high-end amenities. Features such as granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, hardwood floors, private workout facilities and a lazy river are standard items in the upscale student housing complexes around LSU these days. Precisely how much TOPS has factored into creating a market for these luxury apartments is unclear because the Louisiana Office of Student Financial Assistance does not keep such data. But you don’t need statistics to point out the obvious. “TOPS has been real key in the development of upscale student housing,” says David Trusty, a commercial real estate broker at Gully Phelps & McKey. “The kids are getting at least a good portion of their tuition and expenses paid, so their families can afford to put them in nicer places.” Consider that a TOPS Honors award, which is the highest level TOPS scholarship, covers full tuition at a Louisiana college or university. It also pays a stipend of $800 per year, which hardly takes care of a semester of housing expenses but at least it is a start.
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“There are two major pieces of paying for college—tuition and room and board, and at LSU they’re about equal—roughly $8,000 a year,” says Greg Albrecht, Louisiana Legislative Fiscal Officer. “That means if your kid is going to LSU, TOPS is going to pay for half of it, so that’s a chunk that mom and dad can spend on nicer housing.” Or a nicer car, for that matter. Steve Waller, director of LSU Office of Residential Life, says in his 17 years at LSU he has seen a marked improvement in the quality of student vehicles in the dormitory parking lots. “TOPS pays their tuition so mom and dad get them a much nicer car for graduation,” he says. “You used to see used Toyotas. Now you see new SUVs, BMWs and much fancier cars.”
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
The place i lived (sharlo) is now ghetto.
So they had to build new stuff for honkeys
So they had to build new stuff for honkeys
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:33 pm to LSUBoo
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and Tiger Land is turning into a section 8 ghetto,
it was ghetto for my last 2 years of law school and they hadn't even built all of hat new shite north of the gates by then
and there is no way the number of people who lived in TL/sharlo is close to the same as all of these complexes. hell it may not even be equal to one of the larger ones
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:33 pm to Jones
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the area around lsu is one giant condo/apt complex
Yep. All of the multi-family development is making the traffic near our hoods a cluster.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:35 pm to Cosmo
I almost flooded my damn vehicle on that street in a rainstorm. Had to pop the curb and limp dick it down the block to Harwich.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:35 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Sharlo is where Derrick Todd Lee took his first victim
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:36 pm to Chris Warner
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Sharlo is where Derrick Todd Lee took his first victim
sounds relevant to the conversation. also this little nugget is pretty novel. thanks for enlightening us about this previously unknown (and very necessary) fact.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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hell, with that huge neighborhood out by u-club, has the population of BR itself gone up like 33-50%?
BR has stagnated at best first of all, and that area as far as I know is outside of the city limits.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not only that but back then and when I was a student Freshman were not required to live on campus
aren't they required to now?
aren't they required to now?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
build cheap, let students run it into the ground for a few years, section 8 it, move onto the next development
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:39 pm to BilJ
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section 8 it
what i figured/feared
that is going to create a ticking time bomb with ghetto just surrounding LSU
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:39 pm to Cosmo
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The place i lived (sharlo) is now ghetto.
So they had to build new stuff for honkeys
Although the basis of this is true, I think the cause and effect are flipped here. Ghetto didn't move in and push whitey out. Whitey moved out when new popular places opened, and complexes needed to drop rates to keep their units occupied. Then Ghetto moves in. Although once that started, yes it compounds quickly.
Much of what used to be fairly acceptable when I was there now seems to be considered "dangerous".
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:40 pm to c on z
I just want to know how these developers can continue to justify building these places. There can't be that much demand with so much already there. And it's not like people are sticking around campus after they graduate. There is no reason to live there if you aren't in school, it's completely inconvenient to any other part of the city.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:41 pm to KG6
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Ghetto didn't move in and push whitey out. Whitey moved out when new popular places opened, and complexes needed to drop rates to keep their units occupied. Then Ghetto moves in. Although once that started, yes it compounds quickly.
a lot of this was the great tax benefits development got in SLA after Katrina/Rita
i could defend the initial surge in luxury housing
but this new proliferation? it legit blew my mind
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that is going to create a ticking time bomb with ghetto just surrounding LSU
The ticking time bomb has been growing since at least 2003.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but this new proliferation? it legit blew my mind
TOPS/rising enrollments has been pointed to as factors in the developments.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:44 pm to ProjectP2294
Anyone know what is being developed at the end of Burbank on the land opposite the soccer fields approaching the Highland/Siegan light?
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