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Macy’s, J.C.Penney accept that it’s Amazon’s world and they just live in it

Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:30 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:30 am
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LA Times - Consumer Column

First the good news: The Commerce Department reported last week that consumers went shopping in July. Retail sales rose 0.7%, after a 0.3% gain in June.

This is important because consumer spending accounts for about two-thirds of U.S. economic activity, so what’s good for retailers is literally good for America.


Now the not-so-good news. Major retailers such as Macy’s and J.C. Penney reported some dismal quarterly numbers, suggesting that things may not be as upbeat as the Commerce Department would have us believe.


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Reinvention is the watchword for department stores. Some, such as Kohl’s, are inviting crowd pleasers like fitness clubs and yoga studios to share their space. Others, such as Nordstrom, are experimenting with micro-stores that don’t even sell things — they’re designed to promote online sales.

Macy’s and Penney both announced last week that they’re partnering with a company called ThredUp, which sells second-hand women’s duds. Yes, two of the most prominent names in retailing are getting into the used-clothing business. That’s what it’s come to.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
2134 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:31 am to
Get ready to be banned, Bezos owns the OT too
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
17674 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:35 am to
Things aren’t “upbeat” for Macy and Penney because they were too late in changing business philosophy to meet what the market wants.

That is called competition in capitalism
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:38 am to
Macy’s and JC Penny both have an online presence.

Most consumers don’t know that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:40 am to
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Macy’s and JC Penny both have an online presence.

Most consumers don’t know that.


That's because when you do a search for a product on google the top results are generally Amazon.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:41 am to
Tell us something we don’t know
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:42 am to
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Macy’s and JC Penny both have an online presence.

Most consumers don’t know that.



Yea but is their shipping Amazon fast?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:54 am to
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Macy’s and JC Penny both have an online presence.


Macy’s always has online sales as well. Shipping isn’t Amazon Prime fast but not horribly slow either. Usually free shipping if you spend at least $50.

Plus...you can easily return any online items at the closest Macy’s location. Makes it easy to shop for clothes online and return the items that you don’t like after they arrive and you try them on. I do this all the time.
Posted by Poule Deau Gravy
US of A
Member since Aug 2019
134 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:00 am to
The Kohl's in the town near me has an Amazon Prime dropoff that sends any prime item back for free. They must have teamed up with them, but I'm not sure to what effect.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:27 am to
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Others, such as Nordstrom, are experimenting with micro-stores that don’t even sell things — they’re designed to promote online sales.


Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:27 am to
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Get ready to be banned, Bezos owns the OT too


Nah, this website messes up way too much to be owned by Amazon
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141120 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:34 am to
Is Amazon buying Kohls for store presence? I see Kohls is now accepting Amazon returns and that seems to be what all their commercials are now.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34401 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:33 am to
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Yea but is their shipping Amazon fast?

About the same, and free


Cuz, youre not paying $100 a year for it
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:23 am to
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About the same, and free


Cuz, youre not paying $100 a year for it



So if i order something at 8am do i get it to my door by 5pm that day?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58820 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:24 am to
WSJ had a story on Nordstrom's yesterday. Apparently it is struggling, which is disturbing because it defines quality and customer service.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87738 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:25 am to
Macy's is higher than JCP but can't compete with Nordstrom

It has nothing to offer

TBH it's fair to ask if we really need anything between Kohls level and Nordstrom as far as physical locations.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
10409 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:26 am to
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shopping in July. Retail sales rose 0.7%, after a 0.3% gain in June.

Probably that shirt I bought last month. I never go to the mall.

I just don't see the benefit of buying clothes online. Can't try on the shite, I don't see the point other than something you're looking for not being in the store.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76148 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:27 am to
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Get ready to be banned, Bezos owns the OT too
Bezos is Chicken and Chicken is Bezos?

Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28721 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:35 am to
I at least use their air conditioned stores and free wifi to try on clothes and order the clothes with my Amazon one button check out.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:07 am to
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WSJ had a story on Nordstrom's yesterday. Apparently it is struggling, which is disturbing because it defines quality and customer service.




Sears and Macy's are struggling even more.

Those department stores have high overhead costs with massive amounts of square feet - mostly tied to a dying "indoor shopping mall" retail concept. Nordstrom just happens to be in better malls and has fewer locations.

Nordstrom isn't any better with online retail.
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