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re: LSU launches $1.5B campaign to unite its campuses
Posted on 3/28/19 at 2:35 pm to Jones
Posted on 3/28/19 at 2:35 pm to Jones
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Your rationale is what is wrong with people. Just keep throwing money at the problem but never actually fix it
What are you talking about? LSU can't pay professors competitive salaries so they leave. Degrees programs are being cut because they can't afford the faculty. The university is being left in the dust by other schools while LSU is making cuts.
Have you walked around campus? There are so many buildings in need of serious renovation and all of that takes money that they don't have.
Competition has driven the price up to be a big time university.
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 2:37 pm to Tarps99
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Ya’ll literally missed my point.
For years, the library on LSU’s main campus has been an issue, but for some reason, LSU was still able find finding funding to build other facilities and upgrade other buildings while the Library was left to rot.
How can we be sure this money will go where it needs and not on more LSU lazy rivers.
I think you don't understand how this works. Money is given towards certain projects. Other buildings "found money" because donors gave to that specific project. LSU hasn't been able to fix Middleton because no one is donating money to fix Middleton. They will renovate the Business and Engineering colleges though.
And the lazy river was, again, allocated funds for a special project that was voted on by the Student body. It'd take a couple thousand lazy rivers to compare to the cost of renovating Middleton.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 3:22 pm to oauron
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And the lazy river was, again, allocated funds for a special project that was voted on by the Student body. It'd take a couple thousand lazy rivers to compare to the cost of renovating Middleton.
You just made my point.
If the students were able to vote on a lazy river, then why can’t the students vote to do fiscally responsible things and build things that are more of use to the university instead of leisure activities.
So if the students want new facilities let the students and the school find the money and resources to build this through tuition fees and other means.
This deal reeks like a fox guarding a hen house.
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 4:05 pm to Tarps99
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You just made my point.
If the students were able to vote on a lazy river, then why can’t the students vote to do fiscally responsible things and build things that are more of use to the university instead of leisure activities.
Because the students aren't given enough money to make that sort of difference. They vote on 3 different things in SG elections for the funding to go to. It's tens of thousands of dollars. They could buy some new ceiling tiles for the 1st floor of Middleton with that money? How would that have helped the need here?
Why are you going after something that is a hundredth percent of the budget and labeling it as the reason why money shouldn't be given to the university?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 4:20 pm to oauron
So rich donors have funded a series dedicated new buildings to replace old outdated maintenance-hog facilities and LSU still can’t manage to do something about Middleton in all of those years??? bullshite, Middleton has been their poster child for poor-mouthing for 40years.
And why should students be concerned about losing supposedly quality professors when the vast majority of them only show up two days a week and haven’t taught rank and file students in a classroom in years?
And why should students be concerned about losing supposedly quality professors when the vast majority of them only show up two days a week and haven’t taught rank and file students in a classroom in years?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 4:52 pm to hawkster
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So rich donors have funded a series dedicated new buildings to replace old outdated maintenance-hog facilities and LSU still can’t manage to do something about Middleton in all of those years??? bullshite, Middleton has been their poster child for poor-mouthing for 40years.
And why should students be concerned about losing supposedly quality professors when the vast majority of them only show up two days a week and haven’t taught rank and file students in a classroom in years?
Feel like that's a bit of revisionist history. I graduated from LSU in the past decade and it only became an big issue during my last two years of my time as a student.
As far as losing professors, they do care. How long has it been since you were a student? Complaining about not being able to graduate on time because a required class that was being taught year round is now only taught in one semester/year happened all the time. I had to jump through hoops to still graduate in 4 years, because classes that were scheduled to be available got merged, replaced, or just removed all together.
Fewer professors means fewer classes and degree programs, which leads to a worse time for students. Should be pretty cut and dry to understand.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 5:29 pm to oauron
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Fewer professors means fewer classes and degree programs, which leads to a worse time for students. Should be pretty cut and dry to understand.
Very easy to understand. Teaching students and maintaining degree programs is way, way down on the list of LSU administration priorities.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 5:47 pm to oauron
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Because the students aren't given enough money to make that sort of difference. They vote on 3 different things in SG elections for the funding to go to. It's tens of thousands of dollars. They could buy some new ceiling tiles for the 1st floor of Middleton with that money? How would that have helped the need here?
I don’t call 84 million dollars chump change for the entire student recreation center and it being funded by the students.
Why not have a new facility fee to cover the cost of the new facilities on the campus?
It goes back to the many on this board who say that we need to close X university because we have too many. I say as long as a facility is not losing money, it is an asset to the state and not a drain.
It is just that LSU recently has gotten too big as an institution and no one wants to touch the elephant in the room to make things more manageable. LSU has being doing what LSU wants and it doesn’t want to self fund things.
They are looking for a hand out for someone else to pickup the tab.
Posted on 3/29/19 at 8:24 am to Tarps99
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I don’t call 84 million dollars chump change for the entire student recreation center and it being funded by the students.
That's not the cost of the lazy river. The renovation of the UREC was paid for by student fees (much like all of the technology equipment, etc) and that's not voluntary. His criticism was that, not renovations that were needed. LINK
The point of buildings like these is to attract and retain students. Once again, competition has driven the costs of doing business up.
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Why not have a new facility fee to cover the cost of the new facilities on the campus?
Because LSU is already having an hard enough time attracting students to come to the school. They've already had huge tuition increases (which were merited), but LSU's biggest draw of value for your degree has largely gone away. Not sure how you advocating for poor college students to either pay more, leave school, or accumulate even more debt is a great option.
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