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re: LSU alums that live out of state and your kids want to go to LSU

Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:02 am to
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19576 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:02 am to
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LSU offered nothing, when Oklahoma, Baylor, Arkansas and Texas Tech all had similar percentages covered by scholarship. We did not meet their diversity push criteria.


Kind of what I am feeling.

The Arkansas waiver is really nice and attracting border state students. My daughter is really interested in outdoors fitness type things so we are unexpectedly taking a trip to Fayetteville this fall.

LSU's DEI puch is so much that they are pushing children of alumni away. It's weird to me.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6842 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:07 am to
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think they used to give alum’s kids in state tuition rates but scrapped that in the last 10 years.


It was 75% off out of state tuition when I started (2004). Pretty sure that was ended before I finished, but I could be incorrect.
Posted by gptigers
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2010
230 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:09 am to
Oldest got a $500/semester alumni scholarship. No in state tuition. Wife and I both went to LSU.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18012 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:13 am to
This all sounds like a nightmare. I have about 7 years before this insanity
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14647 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:18 am to
looking at in-state LA Tech
The fees are more than the tuition. TOPS only covers tuition

It's a racket
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33832 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:38 am to
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Just remember, it’s three woo pig sooies and then yell Razorbacks.


Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3242 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:42 am to
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Florida schools are interesting with the cheap in-state tuition and easy qualification for out of state waivers.


If I’m correct, DeSantis signed a bill several years ago that allowed for out-of-state students who had a grandparent living in FL, to get in-state tuition rates for all public Florida universities
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 10:43 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3242 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:49 am to
In state tuition at LSU is already ridiculously expensive. It can be $10,000 to $15,000 a semester if a student is paying for room-and-board as well as Rec fees. Fraternity/sorority dues make it even more expensive.

The bottom line is that catering to out-of-state kids from the East and West coast brings in more money, because those regions are the wealthiest in the country and families from there are more likely to afford expensive tuition. Many public universities do this, not just LSU
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32244 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:20 am to
I never said they wouldn’t but I’ve seen more highly qualified LA kids get fat offers from Alabama, Mississippi schools, Texas schools, and other southern region schools where LSU offered nothing.

Talking about kids with 30+ ACT scores and 4.0 gpa, getting nothing from the flagship
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33832 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:30 am to
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UW-Madison previously capped out-of-state undergraduate enrollment at 27.5%. In 2015, the university lifted the cap and replaced it with a policy requiring the institution to enroll 3,600 first-year students from Wisconsin each fall. That fall, the university admitted 4,685 first-year students.

In 2019, officials changed the policy again. Now, UW-Madison must enroll 5,200 new in-state students each year, based on a three-year rolling average. This policy counts transfer students and Minnesota students covered by tuition reciprocity agreements with the Wisconsin university system.

In fall 2022, the university added more than 9,700 new students, both transfers and first-time undergraduates.


Wisconsin used to cap out of state student enrollment to reserve more spots for instate students whose households had been paying taxes for decades to fund the university. But they, like many schools, realized those households were still going to pay taxes at the same levels and they could goose the coffers by letting in out of state students and charging them a shitload. So they make more, the instate taxpayers get screwed. It's bullshite.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23247 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:37 am to
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They use TOPS as a crutch to not offer local kids which often backfires when out of state school poach our best and brightest because we don’t offer them anything.

TOPS alone isn’t the free ride some hope it is. Fees and books alone will run ya over $5k a year. Still need housing. I am only referring to the basic/regular TOPS (not the higher levels available).
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4820 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:39 am to
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placekicker.
Damn DEI.


seriously, good luck.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
825 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:44 am to
I was 75% out of state tuition waived because my mom was an alum starting in 2009, but by Fall 2010 it was gone
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52964 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:49 am to
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I never said they wouldn’t but I’ve seen more highly qualified LA kids get fat offers from Alabama, Mississippi schools, Texas schools, and other southern region schools where LSU offered nothing.
maybe LSU is doing them a favor since there are no jobs here for when they complete their degree anyway

I’m sure all universities have some sort of admissions quirk. University of Texas turned away highly qualified kids for years to make sure each class had a certain percentage of minorities. I’m sure LSU has some sort of reasoning behind what they do, even if it is not right.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13613 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:04 pm to
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unexpectedly taking a trip to Fayetteville this fall.

Don’t be surprised if she ends up going to Arkansas. I’ve seen it happen several times over the years. Arkansas isn’t initially on a student’s radar, but then the school quickly moves to top of their list once they start looking into it.

The university and NW Arkansas both have a lot to offer prospective students.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19576 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:09 pm to
So just sharing my experience with an above average student from Mississippi.

LSU is offering an extra $1,000 because I have a degree from there, but OOS makes it really tough.

Mississippi State is recruiting diversity and offering scholarships to 20-23 ACT students that other schools don't, which reduces their reward for higher ACT students.

Ole Miss has a great offer, is recruiting heavily, and if we bump to a 29 ACT from a 28, tuition is covered fully.

Arkansas is waiving 90% of out of state tuition, but nothing more.

Louisiana Tech is waiving out of state and giving about a 50% merit scholarship, which puts bottom line similar to State.

Florida State is waiving out of state tuition, but nothing more. Bottom line is slightly higher than State/La Tech. Florida says she needs a 30 to get the same deal.

Tennessee is offering very little. Auburn is offering a little more, but neither are budging on out of state. Tennessee has it locked down more than anywhere else.

Right now, Ole Miss has the financial lead. State, Louisiana Tech and Florida State are just behind, and Arkansas is just behind them, followed by LSU, Auburn and Tennessee.

We have a 529 and cash flow that can cover all of these, but I'm not seeing that there is a ton of difference in these schools.

This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Krane
Member since Oct 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:09 pm to
Wait your son is a kicker?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:27 pm to

Is your kiddo male? Just a note from Saturday bid day, Arkansas sorority population is now at 2,200 for 12 chapters. He may like that if he goes greek. Loads of pretty girls up there now from states all over. Announced 33K enrollment last week as well, which is nuts to me.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52964 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm not seeing that there is a ton of difference in these schools.
there really isn’t - your child should just pick where they want to go.

My oldest had a 32 ACT, she had offers from everywhere. She graduates from lsu this May (2025). Finding a job may be a challenge and she might have to move away for that. But according to another thread, Baton Rouge is tier 1 for white collar jobs. So we shall see.

As long as your child has an inclination as to what she or he wants to study and wants to go to that school - I don’t think it really matters which university is attended.

Baton Rouge is not good for white collar jobs - list was reverse order.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted by RadioactiveTiger
Chernobyl
Member since Aug 2007
169 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
My wife and I are both LSU graduates. My son had a 35 on his ACT, 17 college credits, was valedictorian with multiple AP classes and LSU offered nothing worthwhile. Ole Miss and Alabama offered multiple scholarships worth between $125K and $135K. Basically free college.

We enjoyed our time at Ole Miss. He graduated with honors with a degree in Chemical Engineering. The whole process opened my eyes to just how little LSU cares about alumni and the best students in state. They cater to out of state students for their money.
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