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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
I've caught some damn nice lemonfish on their anchorchains but I never realized they were drawing THAT much


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
They can carry about 2 million barrels of oil


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Weeks Marine finna eat


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
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corpus Christi will never over take the lower Mississippi. They could dredge the channel to 100 feet.


That's not the point. Yes, you are correct, a port that serves traffic from over 1/3rd of the Continental US should never be eclipsed by a port that doesn't even serve all of South Texas.

But why should they even be in the ballpark of your existing ship channels, not to mention eclipsing yours?



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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
The LOOP has been handling VLCCs for 3 decades. With the existence of an offshore oil port, there was previously no logistical reason to accommodate vessels over 45 feet. Now with the neopanamax vessels having access to the gulf, there is a logistical reason to go to 50 feet, and that's exactly what they are doing


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Captain Crackysack
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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Its also just a whole different ballgame. VLCCs coming into corpus have to travel like a couple miles. If that. And they have like 6 escort tugs the whole time. It would be a logistical nightmare to escort a VLCC 100+ miles up the river


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
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Why is it a new project? Couldn't they just start going deeper during their routine operations?


Current agreement for maintenance dredging is for 45ft at no cost to the non-federal sponsor. Going to 50ft requires a percentage to be paid for by the State of Louisiana. I believe eve the Soy Transportation Board in Iowa kicked in money as well to get to the 50ft depth.

This is huge ..... likely to trigger some bigger announcements of investment in the State.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Also there is a lot of oil/gas infrastructure that crosses the river. Most of the older lines were just laid on bottom or just below the channel bottom. Some of these pipelines will need to be replaced with HDDs and removed before they could dredge those areas to 50-ft.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Can they dredge up the LSU lakes as a side project? I think they would really benefit from it if they were deeper. Less algal blooms and send the dredged up material south.


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That is under design at the moment I believe.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
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Good news. Amazing what a difference a couple feet makes.


Just imagine what a couple of inches could do for you Sid.


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SWCBonfire
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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
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Its also just a whole different ballgame. VLCCs coming into corpus have to travel like a couple miles. If that. And they have like 6 escort tugs the whole time. It would be a logistical nightmare to escort a VLCC 100+ miles up the river


Fair point.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
In the early 80's, Calcasieu was annually dredged to 45 feet when project depth was 40 feet. That last 5 feet was watery silt shortly after dredged.


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It is already a difference going up the Mississippi than anywhere else along the Gulf Coast due time involved. and not pilotage (especially if multiple required) but tugs, etc... If it were not for the economy of barges to and from way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers, cost would but NOLA and upstream out of business for ocean shipping.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
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If it were not for the economy of barges to and from way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers


So if it weren’t for the cheapness of shipping shite on the River, river ports wouldn’t exist? Intredasting
This post was edited on 8/1 at 5:08 pm


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
I hope they dump the mud in the marshes. This freshwater diversion bull shite doesn’t work.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Alliance refinery finna eat


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
It 100% works. It was designed to deliver freshwater into the marsh. And it does just that. The area around Caernarvon is thriving with freshwater shite.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
If its dredged to 50 foot, I'm not taking a 49.9 depth ship through it ...........sorry. You won't get my business.


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re: Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
You gotta get it up on plane


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