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re: Louisiana Supreme Court Will Not Review Life Sentence For Man Who Stole Hedge Clippers
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:53 am to OweO
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:53 am to OweO
He didn't go to prison for theft of hedge clippers, he went to jail for multiple burglaries where he broke into homes and businesses and endangered his life and the life of others. Getting only hedge clippers for his life threatening actions just prove he is too stupid to be in free society, EVER.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:53 am to tigerstripedjacket
quote:Remember, he was only caught those three times. It is not likely those were his only crimes. He demonstrated a dangerous pattern and deserved to be removed from society. He was only a spreader of misery.
I would love to know the estimated administrative cost if he had remained free and continued to commit 3 felonies every ten years
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:55 am to OweO
I think the "three strike" policy needs to be revamped.
I think we need progressively harsher penalties for repeat offenders, but the actual crimes committed should play a role in sentence lengths. There's no good reason to keep this guy locked up for life for pretty pretty crimes, outside of his attempted armed robbery.
I think we need progressively harsher penalties for repeat offenders, but the actual crimes committed should play a role in sentence lengths. There's no good reason to keep this guy locked up for life for pretty pretty crimes, outside of his attempted armed robbery.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:56 am to Jake88
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Jake88
Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.
Despite several convictions, has this guy done anything that warrants a life sentence?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:56 am to Jake88
quote:
Remember, he was only caught those three times. It is not likely those were his only crimes. He demonstrated a dangerous pattern and deserved to be removed from society. He was only a spreader of misery.
Remember, we love in America where you're presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Arguing what crimes he could be doing should have no bearing on sentences for crimes he has been convicted of.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:57 am to OweO
Life seems harsh for what he was convicted of. But I don’t feel sorry for someone who habitually breaks the law. Many others deserve sympathy before him.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:00 am to Jake88
quote:
. Probably dozens of other crimes he got away with.
So we have gone from beyond reasonable doubt of a charged crime to “probably did some shite we dont even know about”. I bet you love to claim how much you love freedom.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:01 am to OweO
It really is a harsh penalty for what would be stealing hedge clippers, but it’s not solely about that. It’s about the accumulation of offenses.
That said, a life sentence for his crimes when other awful humans still walk for far worse is bullshite.
That said, a life sentence for his crimes when other awful humans still walk for far worse is bullshite.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:02 am to Hulkklogan
quote:No kidding. But, I'm not a court and can understand that this guy was a career criminal and acted criminally in many other instances. He was proven guilty for what he was caught doing three times and put away.
Remember, we love in America where you're presumed innocent until proven guilty
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:03 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:03 am to Hulkklogan
It was extensively revamped by the Legislature a few years ago. It's complicated to explain, but creates a pretty large division between non-violent and violent predicates. It also reduced the cleansing period from 10 years to 5 years.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:03 am to OweO
He probably would have stolen more that 500k worth of shite in those 23 years had he not been in jail
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:05 am to OweO
The Supreme Court decision to deny relief was probably correct. Their role is only to determine if the sentence was lawful, not if it was morally excessive.
Johnson’s rhetoric is typical.
Having said that, I would expedite a commutation through the Pardon Board to the Governor’s desk. The sentence does seem excessive.
I like the concept of habitual offender penalty enhancers, but Louisiana’s 3rd strike equals life in jail, no matter the charge, was dumb and capricious.
Johnson’s rhetoric is typical.
Having said that, I would expedite a commutation through the Pardon Board to the Governor’s desk. The sentence does seem excessive.
I like the concept of habitual offender penalty enhancers, but Louisiana’s 3rd strike equals life in jail, no matter the charge, was dumb and capricious.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:07 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:06 am to Jake88
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These sorts of numbers, like those about the cost of people on death row, are always bullshite propaganda. The money was always going to be spent on operations and salaries regardless.
So you’re saying if we reduce the number of prisoners by, say, 50% - there’s no reduction in cost?
The fact that it was budgeted does not make it free.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:06 am to BamaCoaster
quote:This is stupid. I'll cast stones as I please, I've not committed Armed Robbery.
Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.
quote:Yes, the three crimes for which he was convicted.
Despite several convictions, has this guy done anything that warrants a life sentence?
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:06 am to Jake88
quote:
this guy was a career criminal and acted criminally in many other instances. He was proven guilty for what he was caught doing three times and put away.
This and his sentence being too severe can both be true
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:07 am to OweO
He seemingly was a drain on society before prison, he has been a drain on society in prison, so the law of averages says he will be a drain on society should he be released.
That said, he's not stolen anything from innocent, hard working tax payers for 23+ years, so I can see where this makes for a difficult decision.
That said, he's not stolen anything from innocent, hard working tax payers for 23+ years, so I can see where this makes for a difficult decision.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:08 am to lostinbr
quote:No. But there aren't 50% of prisoners that should be set free early and there are always more looking to take their place. Just look at crime maps all over this state. There are but a fraction of the criminals caught and even then most plea down their charges and walk.
So you’re saying if we reduce the number of prisoners by, say, 50% - there’s no reduction in cost?
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:11 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:08 am to Jake88
quote:
No kidding. But, I'm not a court and can understand that this guy was a career criminal and acted criminally in many other instances. He was proven guilty for what he was caught doing three times and put away.
So you're cool that he got put away for life because you can personally justify it with things he might be doing that haven't been proven?
Not me, but to each their own.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:10 am to tLSU
quote:
It was extensively revamped by the Legislature a few years ago. It's complicated to explain, but creates a pretty large division between non-violent and violent predicates. It also reduced the cleansing period from 10 years to 5 years.
Thanks, that's good news.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:10 am to lostinbr
quote:
So you’re saying if we reduce the number of prisoners by, say, 50% - there’s no reduction in cost?
The fact that it was budgeted does not make it free.
I’m pretty sure he’s saying that a 50% reduction in prisoners will not produce anywhere near 50% savings in costs.
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