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re: Louisiana releasing more than 1,900 inmates early today
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:34 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:34 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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I know one being released. His past charges include 2nd degree agh batt, attempted feticide, several domestics and theft charges. Maybe he is doing time for a drug charge but only because previously victims were always afraid to testify against him and it took a drug charge to finally get a conviction. I’d hardly call him “ non-violent”
It sounds like he could benefit from my proposed LEO roving sniper program.
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:34 am to Hangit
Seriously All these Baws and bawettes were already scheduled to be released soon. The average is only 60 days off the sentences. Which they will do an extra 60 days on parole and be supervised.
So instead of doing 30 months in prison and 30 months on parole, they will do 28 months in prison and 32 months on parole. (Example)
People are making this out to be more than it is.
So instead of doing 30 months in prison and 30 months on parole, they will do 28 months in prison and 32 months on parole. (Example)
People are making this out to be more than it is.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:40 am to slackster
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Wait wait wait, that's it? So a guy with a 10 year sentence is getting out in 3.5 years instead of 4? Is this really some drastic change?
People are either not reading that or choosing to ignore it. They are talking like we're releasing a bunch of death row inmates out en masse. These dudes were all getting out in a few months max anyway. I have no opinion on whether this is a good thing or not, but I know it's going to make almost zero real difference.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:41 am to slackster
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Wait wait wait, that's it? So a guy with a 10 year sentence is getting out in 3.5 years instead of 4? Is this really some drastic change?
Yes.
The fear mongering campaign by all the local sheriffs has been fun to watch
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:41 am to SuperSaint
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People are making this out to be more than it is.
Yet, nobody wants to take responsibility if any of these criminals victimize more people when they were supposed to be in prison.
Has the liability on this been challenged in court?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:42 am to Hot Carl
Yeah it's only the retroactive aspect that is causing the mass release.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:42 am to SuperSaint
Or he only served 1/3 of his sentence and is getting paroled under very lenient circumstances so the state can improve their incarceration stats.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:43 am to Hangit
quote:i was never a side piece.
What are you getting your side piece for her birthday in 30 days?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:43 am to member12
Lock all your shite up tonight..... 
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:45 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:what if you nonviolently steal millions and millions of dollars from people through securities/tax fraud?
locking up nonviolent offenders for years and years is medieval thinking
I'm all about releasing nonviolent drug offenders, victimless crimes, etc.
But some nonviolent crimes DO deserve long sentences
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:46 am to FelicianaTigerfan
I'm sorry, I should have specified "strictly" low end drug charges such as possession, without a history of any violent charges on their record.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:46 am to Hangit
The bigger problem with this is on the back end. After release, they are still on parole and subject to supervision. But, as I understand the new law, they can’t be arrested, detained, or jailed, for any non-violent parole violation as well.
Catch your recently released parolee committing a nonviolent offense? Parole officer can’t do shite about it anymore. The state wants these perps out and staying out.
You now have a better chance of breaking probation (supervision in lieu of jail) and going to jail than you do for being an actual former incarceree and going back.
That’s fricked.
Catch your recently released parolee committing a nonviolent offense? Parole officer can’t do shite about it anymore. The state wants these perps out and staying out.
You now have a better chance of breaking probation (supervision in lieu of jail) and going to jail than you do for being an actual former incarceree and going back.
That’s fricked.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:46 am to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:or that he was already pretty much having to do 1/3rd of his sentence if he showed good behavior and completed re-entry programs and whatnot... and getting paroled with the same obligations as they have been for years....
Or he only served 1/3 of his sentence and is getting paroled under very lenient circumstances so the state can improve their incarceration stats.
Only things different is the average of 60 days off the sentences and the state saving millions from going to private prisons that these local sheriff’s families and friends are profiting off of.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:46 am to Hangit
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Yet, nobody wants to take responsibility if any of these criminals victimize more people when they were supposed to be in prison.
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This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:49 am to FalseProphet
quote:yeah I don’t know about that
Catch your recently released parolee committing a nonviolent offense? Parole officer can’t do shite about it anymore. The state wants these perps out and staying out.
Get arrested for simple possession of a scheduled 2 while on parole and tell me how it works out for you
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:49 am to member12
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It’s the first step in a comprehensive criminal justice package aimed at prison populations that have made Louisiana a leader for having the nation’s highest incarceration rate.
I don't understand the mind frame that says we need to release criminals because we have the highest incarceration rate.
How about putting the burden on the people to not break the damn law?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:50 am to SuperSaint
I know a few parole officers and they have been bitching about this since the law was passed. They say it’s effectively neutered their job and as a whole is terrible for our state.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:51 am to Hangit
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Yet, nobody wants to take responsibility if any of these criminals victimize more people when they were supposed to be in prison.
Who do you want to take responsibility? The Louisiana State Senate and House who passed a law?
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Has the liability on this been challenged in court?
Doubtful, since the law has been in effect less than 9 hours. Again, it's a new law, though. Not sure any suit against anyone save the actual perpetrator would hold much merit,
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
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locking up nonviolent offenders for years and years is medieval thinking
It is but a plea bargained non violent conviction does not really mean the perpetrator is non violent.
Lots of flaws in our system that a good, mostly non-political judiciary could mitigate. Unfortunately, the judiciary portion of the system has become highly politicized.
It was never totally apolitical, it seems to have gotten much worse in the last few decades, though I'm not sure that's not a product of perception via the partisan 24 hour news cycle vs reality. It may have been this bad forever or it may not be as bad as we think.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:00 am to Hot Carl
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Who do you want to take responsibility?
Ummm, those who are responsible for making the decisions to put criminals out on the street?
If you are not willing to own it, don't vote for it.
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