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re: Louisiana is the world's prison capital
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:26 pm to GFaceKillah
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:26 pm to GFaceKillah
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For profit prison system.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:28 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I would venture to guess that the majority of the South leads all states in prison population. Not sure what else they lead in that would coincide with having a huge prison population, though. Maybe some certain demographics perhaps?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:33 pm to stout
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Not sure what else they lead in that would coincide with having a huge prison population, though. Maybe some certain demographics perhaps?
Least educated, highest poverty rates and most segregated.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:33 pm to stout
Our prison system is in dire need of reform, but unfortunately there are too many vested interests to allow that to happen. It's easy to say don't do the crime, but take a step back see if incarcerating so many of our citizens is for the best?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm to DavidTheGnome
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take a step back see if incarcerating so many of our citizens is for the best?
Go study crime rates over the past 25 years and let me know.
This thread has copious amounts of fail.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm to stout
Yep. That doesn't go along with the fantasy land narrative that Louisiana prisons are full of people on weed charges, though.
Truth is our population is filled with dysfunctional people who don't give a shite about the law or being a citizen.
Truth is our population is filled with dysfunctional people who don't give a shite about the law or being a citizen.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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When you lock up more people than fricking China, maybe your attitude towards "crime" should be reconsidered.
Perhaps, but you're still voluntarily and knowingly breaking laws that carry harsh sentences.
Should people be able to do "X" legally? Maybe. But right now, it's against the law and you have the choice to not indulge in that activity.
Not only that, people get caught doing "X" multiple times.
It almost has nothing to do with the actual activity than it does with people being just plain stupid, ignorant and/or uneducated.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:38 pm to genuineLSUtiger
You have no idea what you're talking about.
The justice system fills prisons. The prisons themselves are just a reaction to the rest of the criminal justice system being out of control.
It all starts with the legislature criminalizing everything they can get their hands on.
The justice system fills prisons. The prisons themselves are just a reaction to the rest of the criminal justice system being out of control.
It all starts with the legislature criminalizing everything they can get their hands on.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:39 pm to biglego
I honestly think that if you want to reduce incarceration, you need to amend the multiple bill statute. Even changing a double from 1/2 max - 2x max flat to minimum-2x max with good time/probation eligibility would have a big impact. Triple and quad could stay the same.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:39 pm to Dire Wolf
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Least educated,
goes back to demographics
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highest poverty rates
goes back to education
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most segregated.
is this really a surprise? what kind of normal folk want to be around poverty, ignorance, and crime?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:40 pm to NIH
The notion is not that the prisons are full of people arrested solely for weed. The issue is that overcriminalization of minor offenses (especially weed) create a cycle of institutionalization that make it impossible for many citizens to succeed if they are arrested for weed.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:41 pm to tLSU
People are putting the cart before the horse. Even if we reduce incarceration it just means probation and parole will become supremely bloated.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:41 pm to Gradual_Stroke
If China and Iran has a lower incarceration rate than the US, but China executes more prisoners per year than any other country and Iran has the highest number of executions per capita, then are you suggesting we execute more existing inmates in order to mirror their rates of incarceration?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:44 pm to CorporateTiger
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for many citizens to succeed if they are arrested for weed.
bullshite. Dropping out of high school, unwanted kids, addictions, committing felonies, etc. are all way higher on the list.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:44 pm to NIH
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NIH
You don't think Jim Crow had anything to do with those "demographics"
I am in my mid 20s. My dad's high school was segregated until his junior year. People on here act as if this was some far a way thing
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:46 pm to CorporateTiger
Yeah, that's what it is.
All the assaults, rapes, robberies, and murders don't impact it a bit...
All the assaults, rapes, robberies, and murders don't impact it a bit...
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:47 pm to Gradual_Stroke
We should start caning instead.
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Singaporean law allows caning to be ordered for over 30 offences, including hostage-taking, robbery, gang robbery with murder, drug use, vandalism, and rioting. Caning is also a mandatory punishment for certain offences such as rape, drug trafficking, illegal money-lending, and for visiting foreigners who overstay their visa by more than 90 days, a measure designed to deter illegal immigrant workers.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:54 pm to theenemy
We need to legalize all drugs and taker a harsher stance on violent crimes such as murders and armed robberies. It will work itself out.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:54 pm to Dire Wolf
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You don't think Jim Crow had anything to do with those "demographics"
No, Lyndon B. Johnson does. Incentivizing people to breed indiscriminately and then not give a shite about their kids is the root of a lot of problems.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:56 pm to CorporateTiger
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minor offenses (especially weed) create a cycle of institutionalization that make it impossible for many citizens to succeed if they are arrested for weed.
What a bunch of hyperbolic horseshite. One little weed charge isn't going to keep someone from living their lives. Continually breaking the law will, though.
As much as some people might like to smoke, and as ridiculous as it may or may not be for weed to be illegal, at some point you have to grow up and act like an adult and sadly part of being an adult is making sacrifices such as not smoking a blunt every day.
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