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Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to Clyde Tipton
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Or you could not commit the crime. Either way, though.
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Despite locking up more people for longer periods than any other state, Louisiana has one of the highest rates of both violent and property crimes.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to Gradual_Stroke
This study triggers me
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Of course none are/were guilty, right?
What a lovely strawman you've built
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to Clyde Tipton
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Or you could not commit the crime.
The crime being, in a large number of cases, the desire to smoke a joint or a bowl. But lock 'em up by all means.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Well for starters we have archaic drug laws. Second we are incredibly hung up on "punishment" as a reason to put someone in prison (see significant parts of this thread). Finally we do a piss poor job of creating a path towards non-institutional life once a person is in the system.
I will also add as an aside that there are still a lot of messed up views on race in this country (from Blacks and Whites) which perpetuate this system.
I will also add as an aside that there are still a lot of messed up views on race in this country (from Blacks and Whites) which perpetuate this system.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:06 pm to Gradual_Stroke
The whole "world" part is a bit of a misnomer. There are plenty of countries that don't record or report such numbers. There are also countries where a large portion of the criminal population "disappear".
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:06 pm to CorporateTiger
For profit prisons
Mandatory minimum sentences
War on drugs
Mandatory minimum sentences
War on drugs
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:10 pm to t1gerst1gerst1gers
quote:If it is decades old news, why the frick is it still happening?
Louisiana is the world's prison capital by t1gerst1gerst1gers
Thanks for the decades old news, dipshit...
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:10 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I can think of one statistical anomaly that skews our data...
Personally, arrest more of the bastards.
Personally, arrest more of the bastards.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:11 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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How does something like this happen in this country? Pretty scary.
Maybe it happens because you have so many criminals in your state? Look at how many criminals are still thugging and loving it in BR and NO on a daily basis that should be locked up, if anything you need more prisons so there is room for the rest of the criminals.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:12 pm to sjmabry
For profit prisons I think are sometimes overstated in importance, but yes that issue is out there. Mandatory minimums are a great example of how we are overly fixated on ensuring that criminals are "punished" harshly enough without any actual context or discretion on a case-by-case basis.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:13 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Of course none are/were guilty, right?
this is a real easy way to continue to marginalize a community that has been considered second class for a few centuries.
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While Louisiana tops the prison rankings, it consistently vies with Mississippi -- the state with the second-highest incarceration rate -- for the worst schools, the most poverty, the highest infant mortality. One in three Louisiana prisoners reads below a fifth-grade level. The vast majority did not complete high school. The easy fix of selling drugs or stealing is all too tempting when the alternative is a low-wage, dead-end job.
More money spent on locking up an ever-growing number of prisoners means less money for the very institutions that could help young people stay out of trouble, giving rise to a vicious cycle
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About 5,000 black men from New Orleans are doing state prison time, compared with 400 white men from the city. Because police concentrate resources on high-crime areas, minor lawbreakers there are more likely to be stopped and frisked or caught up in a drug sweep than, say, an Uptown college student with a sideline marijuana business.
think how easy it would be railroad anyone in the hood.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:14 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I never really realized how the whole for-profit prison thing worked before this past year. Pretty eye-opening stuff.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:15 pm to CorporateTiger
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For profit prisons I think are sometimes overstated in importance, but yes that issue is out there. Mandatory minimums are a great example of how we are overly fixated on ensuring that criminals are "punished" harshly enough without any actual context or discretion on a case-by-case basis.
This
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:20 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:22 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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When you lock up more people than fricking China, maybe your attitude towards "crime" should be reconsidered.
Yeah, our citizens are worse off than China.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:22 pm to lsu13lsu
eventually they will legalize it federally.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:23 pm to Gradual_Stroke
1. Lots of thugs
2. Lots of laws. Everything is illegal.
3. Strong sheriff/DA/private prison lobby to keep the machine going
4. Elected judges who campaign on being tough on crime.
2. Lots of laws. Everything is illegal.
3. Strong sheriff/DA/private prison lobby to keep the machine going
4. Elected judges who campaign on being tough on crime.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:26 pm to lsu13lsu
Man you went full on straw man on that.
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