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re: Louisiana is the world's prison capital

Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37758 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Among black men from New Orleans, one in 14 is behind bars; one in seven is either in prison, on parole or on probation



Of course none are/were guilty, right?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39942 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Or you could not commit the crime. Either way, though.




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Despite locking up more people for longer periods than any other state, Louisiana has one of the highest rates of both violent and property crimes.


This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Bootyrich
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2015
1189 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
This study triggers me
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Of course none are/were guilty, right?




What a lovely strawman you've built
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77189 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Or you could not commit the crime.


The crime being, in a large number of cases, the desire to smoke a joint or a bowl. But lock 'em up by all means.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:59 pm to
Well for starters we have archaic drug laws. Second we are incredibly hung up on "punishment" as a reason to put someone in prison (see significant parts of this thread). Finally we do a piss poor job of creating a path towards non-institutional life once a person is in the system.

I will also add as an aside that there are still a lot of messed up views on race in this country (from Blacks and Whites) which perpetuate this system.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15846 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:06 pm to
The whole "world" part is a bit of a misnomer. There are plenty of countries that don't record or report such numbers. There are also countries where a large portion of the criminal population "disappear".
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18841 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:06 pm to
For profit prisons
Mandatory minimum sentences
War on drugs
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Louisiana is the world's prison capital by t1gerst1gerst1gers
Thanks for the decades old news, dipshit...


If it is decades old news, why the frick is it still happening?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29531 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:10 pm to
I can think of one statistical anomaly that skews our data...

Personally, arrest more of the bastards.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:11 pm to
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How does something like this happen in this country? Pretty scary.


Maybe it happens because you have so many criminals in your state? Look at how many criminals are still thugging and loving it in BR and NO on a daily basis that should be locked up, if anything you need more prisons so there is room for the rest of the criminals.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:12 pm to
For profit prisons I think are sometimes overstated in importance, but yes that issue is out there. Mandatory minimums are a great example of how we are overly fixated on ensuring that criminals are "punished" harshly enough without any actual context or discretion on a case-by-case basis.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39942 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Of course none are/were guilty, right?


this is a real easy way to continue to marginalize a community that has been considered second class for a few centuries.

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While Louisiana tops the prison rankings, it consistently vies with Mississippi -- the state with the second-highest incarceration rate -- for the worst schools, the most poverty, the highest infant mortality. One in three Louisiana prisoners reads below a fifth-grade level. The vast majority did not complete high school. The easy fix of selling drugs or stealing is all too tempting when the alternative is a low-wage, dead-end job.

More money spent on locking up an ever-growing number of prisoners means less money for the very institutions that could help young people stay out of trouble, giving rise to a vicious cycle

quote:

About 5,000 black men from New Orleans are doing state prison time, compared with 400 white men from the city. Because police concentrate resources on high-crime areas, minor lawbreakers there are more likely to be stopped and frisked or caught up in a drug sweep than, say, an Uptown college student with a sideline marijuana business.


think how easy it would be railroad anyone in the hood.



This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16895 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:14 pm to
I never really realized how the whole for-profit prison thing worked before this past year. Pretty eye-opening stuff.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22635 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:15 pm to
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For profit prisons I think are sometimes overstated in importance, but yes that issue is out there. Mandatory minimums are a great example of how we are overly fixated on ensuring that criminals are "punished" harshly enough without any actual context or discretion on a case-by-case basis.


This
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:22 pm to
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When you lock up more people than fricking China, maybe your attitude towards "crime" should be reconsidered.


Yeah, our citizens are worse off than China.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24294 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:22 pm to
eventually they will legalize it federally.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83205 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:23 pm to
1. Lots of thugs
2. Lots of laws. Everything is illegal.
3. Strong sheriff/DA/private prison lobby to keep the machine going
4. Elected judges who campaign on being tough on crime.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:26 pm to
Man you went full on straw man on that.
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