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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:25 am to FAT SEXY
James gang operated in MO, KS, into Mexico.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 11:20 am to Jim Rockford
Here is a link to a book about the Nightriders that was written by Richard Briley III copyrighted in 1963. The author claims that John West and Laws Kimbrell were "greater than Frank and Jesse James."
Nightriders: The Inside Story of the West and Kimbrell Gang
Though the writing style makes it a challenging read and at times unintentionally comical, it tells the story of an outlaw gang that few people in this state know anything about.
Nightriders: The Inside Story of the West and Kimbrell Gang
Though the writing style makes it a challenging read and at times unintentionally comical, it tells the story of an outlaw gang that few people in this state know anything about.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:07 pm to white perch
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Natchez has much more of a Louisiana vibe than it does Mississippi.
Yes it does. Has more LSU fans than Ole Miss or State fans too.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:15 pm to FAT SEXY
West Louisiana from the Sabine to the red river/calcasieu river was littered with outlaws who escaped the law and started a new life.
Ten mile road is a well known stretch full of mixed race people who appear to be black but they definitely don’t identify as such. It’s an insult if they’re called black. They might be Indian might be black but they just identify as white despite being super dark complected.
Ten mile road is a well known stretch full of mixed race people who appear to be black but they definitely don’t identify as such. It’s an insult if they’re called black. They might be Indian might be black but they just identify as white despite being super dark complected.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:18 pm to Jim Rockford
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The route began in San Antonio, Texas, and traversed eastward through East Texas, crossing the Sabine River near Beaumont, and continued through Opelousas, Louisiana, before reaching New Orleans.
I can understand crossing the Sabine, but how the hell did they get cattle across the Mississippi? Or was there a market on the west bank?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:20 pm to white perch
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Natchez has much more of a Louisiana vibe than it does Mississippi.
People say the same about southeast Texas and the Mississippi coast.
The diaspora effect in places that directly border South LA is huge. So many people want out of Louisiana but they don’t want to go too far. So they end up right over the border.
Just a testament to how strong Louisiana culture really is
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:26 pm to La Place Mike
Briley was an amateur with a capitol A and it shows in his writing, but at least he got some of it down on paper. There's another book written more recently that's a little better written but the name escapes me. There's also a historical novel that came out in the last four or five years.
One of the problems with this story is a lot of people were complicit to some degree or another and didn't want to talk about it. There were also people related to the outlaws who weren't involved themselves and just wanted it to go away.
The story goes that John West's skull sat on a fence post outside the general store in Atlanta, LA until the fifties or sixties until it finally disappeared. After his death his widow and extended family moved to Jackson Parish. The community of Weston is named after them.
The vigilantes were issued blank pardons by the governor to be filled in after they did the deed.
ETA Prof. Terry Jones at ULM is a Winn Parish native and his specialty is the Civil War and Reconstruction. He would be the logical guy to write the definitive book about this. I don't know why he hasn't.
One of the problems with this story is a lot of people were complicit to some degree or another and didn't want to talk about it. There were also people related to the outlaws who weren't involved themselves and just wanted it to go away.
The story goes that John West's skull sat on a fence post outside the general store in Atlanta, LA until the fifties or sixties until it finally disappeared. After his death his widow and extended family moved to Jackson Parish. The community of Weston is named after them.
The vigilantes were issued blank pardons by the governor to be filled in after they did the deed.
ETA Prof. Terry Jones at ULM is a Winn Parish native and his specialty is the Civil War and Reconstruction. He would be the logical guy to write the definitive book about this. I don't know why he hasn't.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:42 pm to FAT SEXY
It is a documented fact the James-Younger Gang used to spend time near the now defunct town of Floyd in West Carroll Parish. I do not think they robbed any banks, trains, or stagecoaches in the area but rather, would ride to the area when pressure from law enforcement became too much in their Missouri stomping grounds.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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Jim Rockford
Are you a “historian” from Winn Parish with last name starting with D by chance?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:49 pm to Jim Rockford
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Briley was an amateur with a capitol A and it shows in his writing,
I think he he trying to write in the old Dime Store western novel style and I appreciate his effort.
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The vigilantes were issued blank pardons by the governor to be filled in after they did the deed.
Briley mentions this in his book.
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There's another book written more recently that's a little better written but the name escapes me. There's also a historical novel that came out in the last four or five years.
Let me know when you think of the names of the books. I would appreciate it.
On a side note, Louisiana does such a crappy job educating it's citizens and the rest of the country about our history. New Orleans and the Cajun/Creole cultures gets shoved out there but Louisiana has so much more history to offer.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:51 pm to SCwTiger
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Are you a “historian” from Winn Parish with last name starting with D by chance?
No but he is a close family friend.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:03 pm to Jim Rockford
Same here. My grandmother's family is buried at Coulee cemetery, and I'm aware of many facts you've posted. I have the hardback book of the Nightriders. They roamed all over that piney woods country I grew up in.
Small world.
Small world.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:06 pm to FAT SEXY
The first black US Marshal Bass Reeves spent some time in Louisiana searching for a fugitive.
The Undercover Operation of 1896: While working for the Eastern District of Texas Federal Court in Paris, Texas, Reeves was sent to Houston to investigate a murder case.The Disguise: He assumed a fake identity as a fugitive on the run to gain the trust of the prime murder suspect.The Route: For three months, Reeves traveled directly with the suspect to keep up the ruse. Their trail took them out of Houston, through the Indian Territory, down to Dallas, and straight across the border into Shreveport, Louisiana, before heading back into Texas.
The Undercover Operation of 1896: While working for the Eastern District of Texas Federal Court in Paris, Texas, Reeves was sent to Houston to investigate a murder case.The Disguise: He assumed a fake identity as a fugitive on the run to gain the trust of the prime murder suspect.The Route: For three months, Reeves traveled directly with the suspect to keep up the ruse. Their trail took them out of Houston, through the Indian Territory, down to Dallas, and straight across the border into Shreveport, Louisiana, before heading back into Texas.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:37 pm to La Place Mike
LINK
Covers the same ground as Briley for the most part, but better written
LINK
This is the novel. I haven't read it so can't vouch whether it's any good.
I also found this two part article in a western magazine that is a pretty good overview, although it gets some things wrong and some of it is pure speculation.
Part 1 LINK
Part 2 LINK
There's some hyperbole in all the accounts I've read. The gang operated in one of the poorest areas in the poorest region of the country, in the aftermath of a devastating war. I just don't think there was that much much money involved. I imagine most of these killings were over a horse or a few dollars, which doesn't make it any less criminal. At any rate, I think we've found out just about all we're going to find out about this chapter. It was almost all oral history, and we're now five generations removed from anyone who had first or secondhand knowledge.
Covers the same ground as Briley for the most part, but better written
LINK
This is the novel. I haven't read it so can't vouch whether it's any good.
I also found this two part article in a western magazine that is a pretty good overview, although it gets some things wrong and some of it is pure speculation.
Part 1 LINK
Part 2 LINK
There's some hyperbole in all the accounts I've read. The gang operated in one of the poorest areas in the poorest region of the country, in the aftermath of a devastating war. I just don't think there was that much much money involved. I imagine most of these killings were over a horse or a few dollars, which doesn't make it any less criminal. At any rate, I think we've found out just about all we're going to find out about this chapter. It was almost all oral history, and we're now five generations removed from anyone who had first or secondhand knowledge.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:40 pm to UpToPar
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I can understand crossing the Sabine, but how the hell did they get cattle across the Mississippi? Or was there a market on the west bank?
Another article talks about how they would drive the cattle to Iberville Parish and hold them there until they barged them down to New Orleans.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:02 pm to Jim Rockford
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The gang operated in one of the poorest areas in the poorest region of the country, in the aftermath of a devastating war. I just don't think there was that much much money involved. I imagine most of these killings were over a horse or a few dollars, which doesn't make it any less criminal
It's my understanding that they robbed people passing through on their way to Texas or further west. They didn't prey on the local populace because, as you mentioned, they weren't in a prosperous part of the state. It's also one of the reasons why they operated so long with being caught but who knows for sure.
Thanks for the links.
ETA. The first book links to a paperback that is selling $179.00. Can I borrow it from you after you read it?
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:27 pm to Jim Rockford
Part of the The Old Cattle Trail ( also called Spanish Cattle Trail) is in Terrebonne Parish on what is now Bull Run Road. It connects Hwy 20 at Chacahoula to Hwy 311 at Central just north of Ellendale. Route was from Mexico to the Mississippi River at Vacharie. Bull Run Road
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:02 pm to FAT SEXY
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Louisiana during the Wild West days?
I think the actual “Wild West” days were Turing the Mid - late 1800’s. So, immediately after the civil war there was military occupation and reconstruction were going on. Carpetbaggers everywhere….
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