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re: Louisiana bill would name Bible as official state book
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:52 pm to Boudin
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:52 pm to Boudin
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Obesity, disease, incarceration, divorce, adultery, fatherless homes, income, net worth, education, and government aid, to name a few, are statistically worse with Christians/theist, in relation to those that don't follow a religious doctrine
That is true but most super rich people at least claim to follow some religion.
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:55 pm to Redbone
quote:
Religion will improve you no matter what kind of person you are.
Signed,
The Crusaders
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:56 pm to lsu480
To people getting offended about this, in my opinion, you are just a ignorant as people who get offended about gay rights. And any other matter that has no effect on you/them personally.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:58 pm to Boudin
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statistically
link??
The group you speak of have been on the gov't teat so long they are totally unaware of the situation. They are fat, happy and voting for the person that promises to give them the most.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:05 pm to Boudin
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but then I remember it's all bull shite until the people have influence on decisions.
and then remember it is the immoral politicians that have taken the decision making process away from the people. Current administration is perfect example.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:07 pm to beaver
Should happen.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:07 pm to lsu480
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That is true but most super rich people at least claim to follow some religion.
Probably say that just to associate themselves with the average person, to lessen the divide and make them seem more normal.
Or they're old and from a previous generation that had no answer for things in this world.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:13 pm to brass2mouth
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Religion will improve you no matter what kind of person you are.
Quite the contrary, religion creates a divide and separates peoples
Religious people often judge others while atheist tend to be accepting and open to other people and cultures
That shite should be kept in your home and church.. not in politics and schools
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:18 pm to Redbone
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and then remember it is the immoral politicians that have taken the decision making process away from the people. Current administration is perfect example.
I don't like the guy, he should be impeached if you ask me, but it goes back a lot further than Obama took office. You watch too much FOX News
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:28 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Separation between church and state?
This is a myth there is no such thing.
Some of you people are so fricking stupid.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:33 pm to brass2mouth
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Signed, The Crusaders
Mongolian Empire
Charlamagne/Carolingian Empire
The Inquisitions
FIFY
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:35 pm to Redbone
quote:
Religion will improve you no matter what kind of person you are.
Lulz.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:47 pm to Jcorye1
So let's say this passes. It will be struck down by the courts. That will cost taxpayers money. This is what people want? To waste money on frivolous things to pander to voters.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:51 pm to monsterballads
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So let's say this passes. It will be struck down by the courts. That will cost taxpayers money. This is what people want? To waste money on frivolous things to pander to voters.
In that case, politicians get to rail against activist judges subverting the will of the people. Win/win
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:53 pm to monsterballads
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This is what people want? To waste money on frivolous things to pander to voters.
Alot of them seem too. Especially the old and ignorant. You can have a politician speak to a group and talk about drug testing welfare negros and bringing prayers back to public schools and people will go nuts. They love hearing that kind of stuff.
Of course it will never pass the courts, but hey, it sounds great.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:55 pm to GRTiger
quote:It's not in the Constitution
quote:
Separation between church and state?
This is a myth there is no such thing.
Some of you people are so fricking stupid.
quote:
In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."
The Bill of Rights was one of the earliest examples in the world of complete religious freedom (adopted in 1791, only preceded by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789) but it was interpreted as establishing a separation of Church and State only after the letter of Jefferson (see section United States for more details). At the time of the passage of the Bill of Rights, many states acted in ways that would now be held unconstitutional, some of them with official state churches. All of the early official state churches were disestablished by 1833.
And remember Jefferson had nothing to do with writing the Constitution -- he was in Paris gettin' that hairy Frog poon.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:55 pm to notiger1997
Stupid, the state should not be endorsing any religious text. Why should they acknowledge that the bible is any more valid than say, the Quran or the Vedas?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:57 pm to Kafka
It's implicit in the first amendment however.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
Establishment clause
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:06 pm to monsterballads
Correct
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