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Los Angeles prosecutors office going after major retailers

Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:20 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:20 am
Going after them for false price referencing

Kohl's, jcpenney, Macy's etc

Basically saying that the before price, before the mark down, is pretty much a lie

Apparantly they have a stockpiled Internet research to show trends in dishonest practices

If true, then good on the public servants

Seems like this should be a federal investigation
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 6:23 am
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12043 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:30 am to
I mean, who decides what something is worth? Can't I say "a pet rock is worth $100, but I'm selling it for $10 as part as our 90% off sale!!!"?

If someone is dumb enough to fall for it...then whatever.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138831 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:35 am to
I think you missed this point

Was $100
Now $60

The claim is that the store never offered that good for sale at $100. The retailers were allegedly inflating numbers to make consumers think they are getting a better deal.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 6:36 am
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18579 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:37 am to
If you're dumb enough to believe the "before" price, the government can't help you.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Kohl's


You saved $96.78
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:41 am to
sounds like they are shaking them down for money
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138831 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:41 am to
I am interested to see how this would apply to amazon lightning deals

CAD is already on the case
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:44 am to
I would have thought there to be regulations already in place on things like this, or at the minimum, a certain level of business ethics in place.

Either way this investigation goes, people will still shop at these places.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:47 am to
I think we get the point, just not sure what's illegal about it. If the msrp is 100 and they sell it for 60 then there's no issue. Even if they never list it for 100 then r education to 60. In fact I don't care what the msrp is. I just don't think that falls under the false advertising blanket. They are telling you what it is, they are telling you the correct sales price, and they are telling you what they think it's actually worth. Sounds like every sales pitch ever.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:47 am to
This is why I always pay sticker price. Don't want to feel ripped off.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:49 am to


'I can make a deal at $27,500'
'That's not good enough..$31,000'
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20373 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:01 am to
LOL that they would do this in L.A. where celebrities routinely appear in outfits valued at tens of thousands of dollars because of some designers name.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:08 am to
quote:

f the msrp is 100 and they sell it for 60 then there's no issue
I don't think that is what is heppening in these cases.
"Was $99. Now $79". They never sold them or even listed them at $99.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138831 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:24 am to
quote:

LSUTANGERINE
Why is "the consumer should know better" considered an acceptable counter argument?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:25 am to
quote:

The claim is that the store never offered that good for sale at $100. The retailers were allegedly inflating numbers to make consumers think they are getting a better deal.

yeah that's basically SOP in retail and has been since sales were invented
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:25 am to
quote:

Why is "the consumer should know better" considered an acceptable counter argument?


Because it's a free-market system.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:27 am to
quote:

They never sold them or even listed them at $99.


Every car ever sold. MSRP 30,000, but we'll take 2k off sticker. No dealer has probably ever sold a car at MSRP, so what's the difference? They are merely stating the value, and what they've reduced it to. Value is subjective. You to have to sell something at a price to claim it has that value (look at every diamond appraisal ever)
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:30 am to
quote:

I think we get the point, just not sure what's illegal about it. If the msrp is 100 and they sell it for 60 then there's no issue. Even if they never list it for 100 then r education to 60.


If you claim you were selling it for $100 and now you're selling it for $60, but the truth is you never sold it for $100, you are lying to the customer in an effort to convince them the product is worth more than it really is. That's pretty much the definition of false advertising.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42508 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:30 am to
quote:

Seems like this should be a federal investigation



I am not sure why anyone cares? Who believes the before price anyway?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138831 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Because it's a free-market system.
unfortunately, this scenario does not apply to your understanding of the free market

The government is not trying to set or control pricing of goods and/or services

This is about dissemination of information to the consumer
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