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re: Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent

Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:31 pm to
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The current media aren't their allies. The media are third party "observers" trying to drive ratings to make a buck.
Exactly my point.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:31 pm to
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This guy hollering about they taking the city on this FB Live, gonna see real conflict and strife when the National Guard comes.




Nah. None of those clowns will do anything. They'll just melt away.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44257 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:32 pm to
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rather than a legit source of anger.



What is this legit source of anger?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:32 pm to
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Korkstand's view is that the problems facing blacks in America are 100% caused by "the system working against them".
Nope, not at all my view.
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He doesn't believe that, in current circumstances, black people should even try to advance themselves, as it is a hopeless endeavor against the oppressive system.
Not true.

It is possible to believe that an individual can be responsible for his own self-sufficiency and advancement while also recognizing the undue struggles he might face.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19120 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:33 pm to


Hope all is well
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:34 pm to
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What is this legit source of anger?
I don't know if it would be worse if you're playing dumb right now or if you are actually oblivious.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44257 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:35 pm to
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I don't know if it would be worse if you're playing dumb right now or if you are actually oblivious.



Answer the question.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Hope all is well
It'll be better once I figure out what's pent up my a-hole!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25845 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:39 pm to
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But it is understandable. And the only way to mitigate some of this stuff in the future is if more of us try to understand.



Maybe it is understandable, but true change won't happen until all sides are able to rationally discuss, and accept blame for, the issues.

1. Court system in general stacked against the poor.
2. LBJ's "war on poverty" and the societal welfare it created needs to end (would help with fatherless homes).
3. This current version of the "war on drugs" needs to end (would help with fatherless homes and the HIV rate).
4. Facts and statistics, and the reasons for said stats (some of this goes back to 2 & 3), should be discussed rather than shouted down as "racist." (You're not going to gain much sympathy when it's only a big deal when a cop or a white person kills a black person when the black on black crime is off limits to the discussion.)
5. Excessive force, particularly killings at the hands of cops, on all the citizenry regardless of race should be called into question. (something Republicans should be able to get behind.)
6. The over-militarization of police forces should be called into question.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:42 pm to
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Answer the question.
Playing dumb then?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:45 pm to
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Maybe it is understandable, but true change won't happen until all sides are able to rationally discuss, and accept blame for, the issues.

1. Court system in general stacked against the poor.
2. LBJ's "war on poverty" and the societal welfare it created needs to end (would help with fatherless homes).
3. This current version of the "war on drugs" needs to end (would help with fatherless homes and the HIV rate).
4. Facts and statistics, and the reasons for said stats (some of this goes back to 2 & 3), should be discussed rather than shouted down as "racist." (You're not going to gain much sympathy when it's only a big deal when a cop or a white person kills a black person when the black on black crime is off limits to the discussion.)
5. Excessive force, particularly killings at the hands of cops, on all the citizenry regardless of race should be called into question. The over-militarization of police forces should be called into question. (something Republicans should be able to get behind.)


Yep, agree with all of that. And clearly there's a long uphill battle ahead of us if we do decide to tackle these issues. And I would expect more outbursts like this one along the way, because, again, it is human nature to lash out.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44257 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Playing dumb then?


Are you unable to answer the question?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216135 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Yep, agree with all of that



You would....



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And clearly there's a long uphill battle ahead of us if we do decide to tackle these issues.




Who is US???????



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And I would expect more outbursts like this one along the way, because, again, it is human nature to lash out.



Again you are saying its OK to LASH OUT and steal and destroy other peoples stuff just because you are mad...……..


What a dipshit...………………...
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9910 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:52 pm to
Thugs rioting just because.

They didn't know that man.

They just want a excuse to destroy something that has nothing to do with the injustice.

Cops were wrong and will pay.

But these business owners have the right to defend their property too by any means.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:55 pm to
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Are you unable to answer the question?
I am able. Are you?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29046 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:57 pm to
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Who is US???????
Americans. Who do you think?
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Again you are saying its OK to LASH OUT and steal and destroy other peoples stuff just because you are mad...……..
For the 5th(?) time, NO, it is NOT OK to lash out. But it is human nature, and UNDERSTANDABLE because of that fact.
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What a dipshit...………
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25845 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:05 pm to
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You would....



You're against those things in my post with which he agreed?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176099 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:06 pm to
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I have only said that it is understandable.


Then can we say it’s understandable why cops are assholes to criminals?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:09 pm to
CrimeWatchMpls
@CrimeWatchMpls
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"1000 looters/rioters on University Ave in St. Paul, 'tearing up' as they go" reportedly headed to #Mpls. : heard on dispatch


I'm sure they are just heading to class at University of Minnesota...
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:10 pm to
Saw a tweet about bricks being thrown onto the interstate from an overpass. I hope it isn't true.
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