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re: Little League Dilemma: Was I in the Right or Wrong? UPDATE PG.15
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:50 pm to Duckie
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:50 pm to Duckie
So by playing the game within the written rules he's "taking advantage"? Of what?
Lol. Playing it the way it was meant to be played? Yeah, you play to win. Losers whine about shite that isn't real or about" unwritten rules"
Lol. Playing it the way it was meant to be played? Yeah, you play to win. Losers whine about shite that isn't real or about" unwritten rules"
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Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
It was a scrimmage game, how much did your team learn? Considering they had only 1 win last year they should know more than how to take a walk with a take sign and steal on a bad catcher. You seem to think you know more than the regular coach yet you taught the kids nothing. They know how to read signs, how about letting them swing 3-0 to see how well they know the strike zone. Instead of stealing, keep the runner on base and teach them how to run the bases. Play the entire game, let your less skilled players play longer and learn more. A lot to teach a 9-12 year old.
As someone else said, at some point the opposing coach should have been teaching your kids how to duck and get out of the way on inside pitches.
As someone else said, at some point the opposing coach should have been teaching your kids how to duck and get out of the way on inside pitches.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:52 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Never have the kids swing on 3-0, the ump should have opened the strike zone if the game was getting out of hand.
I probably would have slowed or stopped the stealing up by 10+ runs. But the other coach/dad should have kept his cool and helped his players keep their cool and just shoved it back up your arse next time yall played if he had the chance. The opposing coach should have used the arse kicking as simply a teaching moment for his young players, shrugged it off and brought them to eat pizza so next time they find themselves down they would be mentally strong enough to handle the situation and maybe even fight back for a victory! Opposing coach sounds like a little league pissy dad/coach!
League director sounds like a titty baby also they are what's wrong with kids these days!
I probably would have slowed or stopped the stealing up by 10+ runs. But the other coach/dad should have kept his cool and helped his players keep their cool and just shoved it back up your arse next time yall played if he had the chance. The opposing coach should have used the arse kicking as simply a teaching moment for his young players, shrugged it off and brought them to eat pizza so next time they find themselves down they would be mentally strong enough to handle the situation and maybe even fight back for a victory! Opposing coach sounds like a little league pissy dad/coach!
League director sounds like a titty baby also they are what's wrong with kids these days!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:52 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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I'm positive Ty Cobb and his generation would disagree.
This is what you don't understand. This is not Ty Cobb and his friends playing. This is a bunch of ten year olds who are not fully developed learning the game.
You did nothing to help these kids or improve their baseball skills. You used the rules in your favor because most the kids aren't developed enough.
Like I said, I wouldn't want my kids to win that way. I want them to take pride in their hard work and craft; not that they were able to manipulate rules. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
I'm also going to assume we don't know the whole story here. I don't know the league managers story or the other coaches. If you were kicked out, I am willing to bet you said/did something to provoke that.
I just can't understand why anyone would want to win like that. It's like beating a game with a game genie. There is no pride in it. There's no 'hey, I played awesome today and won!' After awhile, those wins would become boring and meaningless. And there will now be a rule in place because of your actions/exploitations. Because if everyone starts doing it, it ruins the game.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:56 pm to Rouge
Scrimmages are about putting the kids in different situations. It's a glorified practice. Winning is fun, but exploiting a weakness and blowing another team out in a scrimmage is bs.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:57 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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picking on a ten year old and exploiting his obvious weaknesses seems a bit excessive, and running up the score in little league is pretty shitty.
This. You made a kid quit by your own admission. That's very shitty. Little league is not about you stroking your ego as a coach. Sure, build up a comfortable lead but then lay off the kid. You want to teach your kids to play and teach them to win. But you also need to teach to good sportsmanship. You obviously know nothing about good sportsmanship so the league was right to ban you.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:57 pm to Duckie
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You did nothing to help these kids or improve their baseball skills. You used the rules in your favor because most the kids aren't developed enough.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:59 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I probably wouldn't be stealing bases if I were up 9-10 runs. There's a way to win gracefully. You don't have to tell the kids to intentionally strike out, but you don't need to push them to score like they are down 5 runs. It's like running a trick play in football when you are already up 50-0. Just run the ball and be a good sport.
You getting banned seems kind of dumb though. That's like saying you will automatically be banned if you run up the score on a team, even though there is a 10 run rule in place to prevent that.
You getting banned seems kind of dumb though. That's like saying you will automatically be banned if you run up the score on a team, even though there is a 10 run rule in place to prevent that.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:00 pm to OWLFAN86
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you didn't teach the kids how to win you taught them how to be bad sports if I were the opposing coach I would have told my pitchers to throw at your players heads
I was waiting for this! Don't they normally have rules set up for that age group for baseball so this doesn't happen ? You are lucky you didn't get your arse kicked by the other coach or a parent
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:00 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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assistant coach
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9-12 year olds
Congrats on the babysitting gig, "coach".
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:03 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Most of the little league teams I was on did not allow stealing if I remember right.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:04 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Sprinkles are for winners...
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:06 pm to Green Grass Miracle
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I probably wouldn't be stealing bases if I were up 9-10 runs. There's a way to win gracefully. You don't have to tell the kids to intentionally strike out, but you don't need to push them to score like they are down 5 runs. It's like running a trick play in football when you are already up 50-0. Just run the ball and be a good sport.
You getting banned seems kind of dumb though. That's like saying you will automatically be banned if you run up the score on a team, even though there is a 10 run rule in place to prevent that.
Agree with all of this. To paraphrase the Dude, it's not that he's wrong, it's just that he's an a-hole.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:06 pm to Monticello
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Most of the little league teams I was on did not allow stealing if I remember right.
When was this?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:10 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Good Job.
Nice guys finish last and if you're not first you're last.
Nice guys finish last and if you're not first you're last.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:11 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Unwritten rules of baseball
You keep running after being up like that and the next batter gets ear holed
You keep running after being up like that and the next batter gets ear holed
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:12 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I am by no means on board with the "everyone gets a trophy" movement, but I can't get on board with being an a-hole either. Sure you need to instill motivation and a desire to win in kids, but the best thing you can teach them is how to be a decent person. It doesn't matter how far you get in life based on your need to win; if you're an a-hole it will inevitably catch up with you. No one likes an a-hole.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:18 pm to Monticello
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Most of the little league teams I was on did not allow stealing if I remember right.
By this age they're playing pretty much the same rules as the Bigs.
One more thing the OP is failing to realize is that he wasted a great opportunity to actually TEACH his kids a lot. Instead of moving kids around and letting them get playing time and working on actual skills besides stealing, he chose to just run up the score for his own egotistical purposes. He talked about how this team only won one game last season and how the HC knows nothing about baseball. But there he was with a golden opportunity to teach these very kids he claims to be concerned are not learning anything and instead of teaching, he uses a cheap trick to run up the score, and shatter the confidence of a child on the other team.
He's a little league glory hound who's got into coaching for all the wrong reasons. Like I said, they were right to remove him.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:21 pm to Darth_Vader
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But there he was with a golden opportunity to teach these very kids he claims to be concerned are not learning anything and instead of teaching, he uses a cheap trick to run up the score, and shatter the confidence of a child on the other team.
well said.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:22 pm to reginaphilange
You want to see a parent/coach's true character.....put pressure on them. If that team was use to winning then that catcher and his dad were probably use to always being the better performers. Team loses and all the coaches and parents who are use to winning get mad and their true character comes out. These are the same people who say it's just about having fun.....as long as they are winning.
I would not continue to steal while up by 10 though.
And finally...this is why travel is so much better than rec.....the league is designed around competitive play.
I would not continue to steal while up by 10 though.
And finally...this is why travel is so much better than rec.....the league is designed around competitive play.
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