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re: Lil Wayne video on fs1 this morning talking about race

Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:08 pm to
Skip;
"Where are we in the United States of America in race relations, from what you see from day to day?

Wayne:
"They wouldn't want to ask me that. They would want my answer to represent it because, God Knows I have been nothing but blessed. My whole path, these 33 years have been nothing but a blessing. I have never, never is a strong word, never dealt with racism and I'm glad I didn't have to. I don't know if it's because of my blessings, I don't know, but it is my reality. So I have to say, not only did I thought it was over, I still believe it's over. But obviously, it isn't."

This came from a man that spent eight months in Rikers Island prison.

iamAG, COPY AND POST THIS IN YOUR OP so the Weezy haters will do the link and listen.

Can't believe Shannon Sharpe can act like he's been through worse treatment when Wayne's the one who's done time.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 10:26 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:11 pm to
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Wayne did make a good point about what he said about the 'millenials'... It's not 'cool' to be a racist anymore


Agree, that's an excellent point, and jives with what I've seen from my demographic.

Gained some newfound respect for Lil Wayne. Never hated him before (was mostly neutral on the guy).
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:12 pm to
He's a drug addict with shitty songs. He's your typical rapper. His pov is ridiculous and anyone who takes anything he says seriously needs their head checked.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:14 pm to
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He's a drug addict with shitty songs. He's your typical rapper. His pov is ridiculous and anyone who takes anything he says seriously needs their head checked.


You shouldn't talk about yourself that way, TJ.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25123 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:14 pm to
interesting take
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:15 pm to
Skip Bayless doesn't deserve to be in the same room as Lil Wayne.

Bayless is absolutely deplorable.
Posted by illinitiger
North then South
Member since Feb 2009
3331 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:16 pm to
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He's a drug addict with shitty songs. He's your typical rapper. His pov is ridiculous and anyone who takes anything he says seriously needs their head checked.


Settle down grandpa
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:17 pm to
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The article was shite.. I don't think Shannon was really too far off base..

I actually thought it was a pretty good discussion and Wayne did make a good point about what he said about the 'millenials'... It's not 'cool' to be a racist anymore


I was born in '86 and I can say it has never been "cool" to be racist in my lifetime. Outside of fringe extremists like the Klan who have been monumentally insignificant since the 60's and 70's, legitimate racism is pretty nonexistent. People like Shannon and co's perception of racism and reality aren't necessarily congruent. Hence now we have the narrative of "white privilege," wherein racism is supposedly existent "subconsciously" and "structurally." Lots of abstractions that don't require any legitimate measures of verification of standards of proof.

Prejudice can and does exist in many different forms and ALWAYS will, but the idea that people are cool with killing people or treating them like less than human in this country today on account of their race or that it is systemic is bullshite. The term racism in popular usage has taken a dramatic departure from what it used to legitimately define.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:19 pm to
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I'm pretty positive lil Wayne is blackout 23 hours of the day so nobody should put much into anything he has to say


Wayne sees behind the puppet masters...

On The Carter III, at the end of one song he straight transitions into speaking instead of rapping (about Al Sharpton)...

basically calls him a race pimp and specifically said he doesn't speak for all black ppl nor was he appointed to speak for all black ppl. Folks hear what they want to hear
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:28 pm to
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born in '86 and I can say it has never been "cool" to be racist in my lifetime. Outside of fringe extremists like the Klan who have been monumentally insignificant since the 60's and 70's, legitimate racism is pretty nonexistent. People like Shannon and co's perception of racism and reality aren't necessarily congruent. Hence now we have the narrative of "white privilege," wherein racism is supposedly existent "subconsciously" and "structurally." Lots of abstractions that don't require any legitimate measures of verification of standards of proof.

Prejudice can and does exist in many different forms and ALWAYS will, but the idea that people are cool with killing people or treating them like less than human in this country today on account of their race or that it is systemic is bullshite. The term racism in popular usage has taken a dramatic departure from what it used to legitimately define.


Well said. I was born in '88.

I think there's also been a bit of unrest of late in some sectors of society that want to see themselves as on par with the civil and social rights champions of yore. A noble goal, but attempting to equate anything going on on those fronts in 2016 makes it very easy to fall prey to manufacturing bogeymen where few (or none) truly exist.

I hear some of my peers talk about minority "oppression" today in the USA, and think about folks like my Albanian war refugee neighbors in Greece who would have GLADLY traded limbs and health for the chance to live some of those here who consider themselves racially oppressed. It's just a narrative that I cannot support in good conscience.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17230 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:36 pm to
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Well said. I was born in '88.


Must be nice to still have a 2 in front of your age.

quote:

I think there's also been a bit of unrest of late in some sectors of society that want to see themselves as on par with the civil and social rights champions of yore. A noble goal, but attempting to equate anything going on on those fronts in 2016 makes it very easy to fall prey to manufacturing bogeymen where few (or none) truly exist.


Spot on IMO. I think there are people out there who NEED something to make them feel like they have a cause, or a driving force to fight for something and it's easy to find it in this current sociopolitical climate. There are leaders of these movements who manipulate this human impulse for their own political agendas IMO. I know many people who were once never into these kinds of movements who now, because of social media and, well regular media , are activists against some civil oppression in this country that apparently they didn't see several years ago.

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I hear some of my peers talk about minority "oppression" today in the USA, and think about folks like my Albanian war refugee neighbors in Greece who would have GLADLY traded limbs and health for the chance to live some of those here who consider themselves racially oppressed. It's just a narrative that I cannot support in good conscience.


A cursory study of the Balkans in the 90's will show that human prejudice and extremism doesn't require "race" at all. Sadly it's an innate human characteristic. This country is really a miracle of success when you look at our demographics and our stable domestic sociopolitical structure compared to the rest of the world. Politics is relative and ignorance is pervasive.

ETA: P.S.- frick John Chavis.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 10:39 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 10:53 pm to
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Must be nice to still have a 2 in front of your age.


Oh yeah, this was your year to level up to #Club30

Imma enjoy the 20s while they last Body feels way older though

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I think there are people out there who NEED something to make them feel like they have a cause, or a driving force to fight for something and it's easy to find it in this current sociopolitical climate. There are leaders of these movements who manipulate this human impulse for their own political agendas IMO. I know many people who were once never into these kinds of movements who now, because of social media and, well regular media , are activists against some civil oppression in this country that apparently they didn't see several years ago.


Yeah, I've seen that phenomenon with a lot of my (usually liberal) friends the past 5-10 years. Like I said, I think it comes from a good place of wanting to make a difference/be a leader for justice/always strive for improvement/what-have-you, but it ends up coming off as playing the victim card because they try so hard to convince you there's a massive problem, when in reality, you have sporadic unfortunate incidents. That's going to happen in a country this large/diverse, and not that far removed from ACTUAL systemic racial oppression on a large scale.

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A cursory study of the Balkans in the 90's will show that human prejudice and extremism doesn't require "race" at all. Sadly it's an innate human characteristic. This country is really a miracle of success when you look at our demographics and our stable domestic sociopolitical structure compared to the rest of the world. Politics is relative and ignorance is pervasive.


This. Especially the bolded. My wife and I just came from a gathering of volunteers at our church. Our small group consists of the following couples:

--Black male/white female

--Black male/Peruvian-American female

--Latino male/white female

--Black male/white female (my wife and I)

--White male/white female

--Latino male/latino female

And all of those couples have kids except for us It's just remarkable, and it's becoming more and more common. THAT'S the way to end racism the quickest. Everybody get to frickin' each other

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ETA: P.S.- frick John Chavis.





Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:34 am to
Well said.

Bump for day crew.
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