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Let’s address the elephant in the room: the conspiracy folks

Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:13 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:13 am
For the conspiracy folks, what is the logic behind your “false flag” theory?

Why would the local Texas cops be the ones to put off the assault on the gunman when the Feds wanted to go in when they got there? (Bearing in mind the local and state cops have operational control over such matters and the Feds are acting as assistance.)

I get you think these are false flag plots meant to attack the Second Amendment, but considering the political make-up of the situation, why wouldn’t it have been the Feds (beholden to the WH) who put the brakes to the assault plan rather than the local cops?

Sorry, it’s showing up in these threads and I just wanted to address it head on.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:14 am to
I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:14 am to
I dont think you know what elephant in the room means
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:16 am to
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I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.


This. It usually seems like the perp is known or had prior contact with some alphabet agency
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:17 am to
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I dont think you know what elephant in the room means


The constant insinuation in each of these threads that this was somehow some sort of “false flag” but never getting into the nitty gritty of the logic behind such theories is an example of an “elephant in the room”

quote:

The expression “the elephant in the room” (or "the elephant in the living room") is a metaphorical idiom in English for an important or enormous topic, question, or controversial issue that is obvious or that everyone knows about but no one mentions or wants to discuss


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35923 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:17 am to
Nutty buddies out there believe everything is orchestrated by a global cabal who controls everything.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15534 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:18 am to
How’s that Russian influence conspiracy theory going for you?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:19 am to
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How’s that Russian influence conspiracy theory going for you?




Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35923 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:22 am to
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I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.


If you come into contact with the govt. for any reason, how often have you been satisfied how things worked out?

Taxes, driver’s license, permits, fixing a pothole, social security, break in, or whatever?

The govt. seldom measures up. It’s not as if they own their own business or want satisfied customers. Reliance on the govt. is ruining the nation.

Number one reason that we need guns us because we know the govt. can not protect us.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:24 am to
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I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.


Be that as it may, if there was a malicious plot by the Federal government involved to orchestrate this, why not call Border Patrol and tell them to not respond to the Uvalde calls for assistance?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:24 am to
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by a global cabal who controls everything.


I'm not sure who is dumber. The people who think everything is a conspiracy, or those who think nothing is.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:27 am to
I believe the alphabet orgs want to take our guns.

I believe they would carry out false flag attacks to accomplish this goal if they had the means and could get away with it.

Logically I can't figure out how they could accomplish something like this so I remain highly skeptical.

Do they want to? Yes. Do they have the ability? Probably not.

But, like the Vegas shooting, there are a lot of unanswered questions.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41548 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:27 am to
There was no conspiracy, only a deranged, evil dick with a gun to carry out his acts and a colossal failure at every level from school active shooter protocols to law enforcement protocols.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123945 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:29 am to
Alex Jones Indie song


It’s crazy some of the stuff he turned out to be right about
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66711 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:30 am to
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I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.


this is right wing conspiracy talk!1!1!

~UnderCoverBrother
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35923 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:32 am to
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I'm not sure who is dumber. The people who think everything is a conspiracy, or those who think nothing is.


Or those who think they know which things are and which things are not.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:32 am to
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Be that as it may, if there was a malicious plot by the Federal government involved to orchestrate this, why not call Border Patrol and tell them to not respond to the Uvalde calls for assistance?

Anybody who thinks the CIA or whoever conducted every single step, misstep, and error of this is a lunatic.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:36 am to
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Or those who think they know which things are and which things are not.


The smart thing to do is have an open mind. Starting at the "conspiracy folks are dumb" is really dumb.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:36 am to
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this is right wing conspiracy talk!1!1!

~UnderCoverBrother


All I’m asking is how to resolve the logical inconsistency of why the federal cops were the ones, who despite still waiting to enter the school themselves, were the ones who answered a call for assistance from 60 miles away, while the local cops kept waiting even while being on scene the entire time...if this was a plot by the Feds all along?

I’m just asking for a thoughtful response to this question. If there is one, I’d appreciate it.

Edit: I have the same question about the X-Files and why the Syndicate has such a hard time firing Mulder when they are supposed to control the entire Federal apparatus.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 10:39 am
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