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re: Legal advice - party with underage drinking

Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:24 am to
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2429 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:24 am to
I'm glad you this situation, you know me and amazingly you know my child so well.

What a dumbass.
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
1850 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:24 am to
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The po-po is on the way.



RUN!!!
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:24 am to
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Where would you prefer your high school student to drink?


I prefer my high schoolers boozing and finger blasting at public parks after dark. That's why I pay taxes for such things, so my neighborhood isn't flooded with cars on weeknights.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:29 am to
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One of "so-n-so"'s parents will be there so do I mind if they go.

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You tell your 17 year old kid that they can't go? Really?


No I'm perfectly fine with them going if the parent will be there. Probably fine if the parent wasn't there in the middle of the afternoon. But if I know the parent is some trashy dumbass that lets the kids booze it up, then no, I'm not letting them go. I remember the parties that happened where parents let the kids drink. Same shenanigans happened there as the parties that the parents didn't know were happening (sex, drugs, driving, etc.). So why is the parent making it easier for them any more helpful?

And don't give me the "your high school and college social life must have been awful" rigmarole. I've done enough stupid crap in my life that I hope my kid never does. I don't expect him to be perfect, but I sure as hell wouldn't be upset if he didn't do some of the stupid stuff I did.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2429 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:34 am to
Sounds like you don't trust your son then. If you raise them so perfectly, wouldn't they make the right decisions despite what everyone else there was doing?

For me...I do trust my kid and I had zero concerns of them doing anything stupid while they were there. I let them go hang with their friends at their pool...and you call me trashy. Got it.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5137 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:42 am to
Where are the pics of the drunken HS sloots?

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:48 am to
Not in that scenario. But if you know that they will be serving alcohol, then maybe so.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:03 am to
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Sounds like you don't trust your son then.


I don't. I'm pretty sure that little f**cker would drink, snort, and f**k everything at the party. I mean he's only 10 months old, but I can imagine

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For me...I do trust my kid and I had zero concerns of them doing anything stupid while they were there. I let them go hang with their friends at their pool


So you know they were drinking, so it's okay. You trust them, because you let them do the thing that is "wrong".

You have a skewed view on what trust and "doing stupid things" is. If you trust that your kid isn't drinking at that party, then that's one thing, but that is not what you said in the OP. You said parent-"supervised", under-age drinking. So I take it that you know your kid is drinking. I god damn guarantee your kid has also drank when you didn't know it. So do you still "trust" him. And not saying he's a bad kid for doing it, but allowing it suddenly doesn't make it okay.

I remember a party at my highschool when I was a freshman (I wasn't there, but it blew up into a huge issue). Friday night party after football game. Parents were there playing cards in another part of the house. Kid video's all of the crap going down. Tape gets left somewhere and falls into the hands of a school administrator who watches. Girls flashing, body shots, passed out drunk kids, etc.. But it's okay, the parents were there! . I think those parents ended up getting in A LOT of trouble. Tape was given to the DA since there were so many underage kids and the people who found it were in a position that they had to report it. And I ended up working with the dad after I graduated for a short time. He was a great guy, but he had the mentality that "I'd rather let them drink at home" as well. Drunk kids are going to find a way to do stupid things. I know we did.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1779 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:30 am to
Im with you until you send them all away in their cars. You deserve to get in trouble at that point.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:54 am to
This parenting thing... you're not very good at it are you.



You're the parent, not a friend. Grow a pair.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2429 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:02 am to
I'm not a very good parent because I let my child go hang out with their friends in the middle of a Wednesday.

Got it. I have 5 kids...amazingly enough all of whom are doing exceptionally well in life...and apparently I still suck at this parenting thing.

Tell me about your household. How do you handle your teenagers when it comes to drinking, friends, school, trust and communication. You have obviously figured it all out. Let's hear it.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:19 am to
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I'm not a very good parent because I let my child go hang out with their friends in the middle of a Wednesday.


First off, no one has said you are a bad parent, unless I overlooked a post (which is possible). If anything, people may think your position on this particular topic is wrong, but doesn't mean you are raising meth head murderers.

Second, every time you type this out now, you say "hang out with their friends on a Wednesday", as if they are going get snowballs and playing checkers. This started off as kids drinking at a house and the police were on their way, so don't hide that.

I just believe you can have trust and communication and not give in on certain vices. We all drink. I love to drink. I drank when I was underage. But I still do stupid think when drunk and did wayyyyy more stupid things when I was younger. A 17 year old is just going to make dumb choices. He is never going to tell you everything. You are right, you have to raise them and hope they do the right thing. They will mess up, but hope you did a good enough job that messing up isn't killing someone while driving intoxicated or knocking up the school slut. You letting them drink at your house or another house when the parents are around does absolutely nothing to stop the other stuff, so why allow it?
Posted by laangler21
On the lake.
Member since May 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:26 am to
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As if these people didn't go to house parties in high school. You shouldn't have made the kids leave. Answer the door and tell the police that you are aware of no underage drinking, do not condone it, and have not supplied any alcohol. Say they cannot come in because you said so. They can do no more. With that ask if there are any further questions, and then tell them have a good day and go about your day.


This
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:28 am to
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How do you handle your teenagers when it comes to drinking, friends, school, trust and communication. You have obviously figured it all out. Let's hear it.


I let my kids drink at home when they were that age. Their friends were NEVER allowed to have a drink on my property. My kids knew this and their friends knew this. I was not going to have some pissed off parent or dumb arse kid file charges against me.

If they were out at a party and were drinking they would call me and tell me they were spending the night with that friend. I didn't care if they were shite faced as long as they didn't drive.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6717 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:30 am to
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My underage son isn't drinking around me


Right, he does it when he goes to friend's houses and then drives home.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2429 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:32 am to
So would your son call you if they were out somewhere and had some drinks (in 16 or 17 years of course)? Or, would they be too afraid of getting into serious trouble and just decide to risk it and drive home hoping not to get caught because they don’t want to lose their car or phone or whatever for a month because they drank a beer? For me, I would prefer my son call and tell me so we can then make the best decision for them at that time. They can either stay there and spend the night…or me go get them (depending on the situation). I like the fact that they can call me and be honest with me without too much fear (unless they know they really screwed up…which knock on wood…hasn’t happened yet (to my knowledge anyway)). I truly believe that I have a great kid and I know that they make a lot more good decisions than bad ones.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166264 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:33 am to
so what would ya'll rather, 5 kids including your son drinking at your house or banging 5 bitches at your house? No, you can't watch them bang.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:53 am to
they're giving you a hard time. It's typical anytime someone comes on here and requests real advice.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:05 am to
Why can't they call you to come pick them up without you ever supplying the party for them? Your kid can still make good decisions and not drink and drive without you giving them the go ahead to drink at your house in the first place. Like I said, do you truly think that the only time your son drinks is when he's at parties that you know about and would go pick him up from??? He's gotten drunk when you didn't know it for sure.

I mean this is obviously a far fetched scenario, but it's kind of the same premise. If your kid was doing heroin, would you supply the needles so he didn't go use dirty needles because he was afraid to get caught asking for clean ones? At what level do you stop trying to stop it and do what you can to prevent it from hurting them. Not saying there's a completely right or wrong answer, but that line stops before condoning underage drinking to me. I know it may happen, but I'm not quite to the point of condoning it.
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