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re: Leaving job without notice.

Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116458 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:54 pm to
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wants him to start mid June but he is waiting on a bonus that will come around that time and doesn't want his current employer to swindle him out of a bonus i


If you're that worried about the company fricking you over then you might as well burn that bridge
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:06 pm to
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If it's an opportunity he can't pass up, he should take it. He should also be very frank with the current employer.

This

I'm interested for more details on why this new employer would do that to him. Unless there's some detail I just can't think of, I think that's a red flag for this new employer to not work with him a little here.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26334 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:54 pm to
If an employee gave me a 2 day notice, I'm just telling them to turn in company property and files, pack their stuff, and go. The bridge is burned.

If moving back his start date with the new employer isn't an option, then he should just know that going back to the previous employer will never be an option for him again and he probably won't get a great reference from his old boss either.

Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10392 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:56 pm to
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Random question. Is it acceptable to give a months' notice then take a bunch of vacation days and then only half arse it when you actually do go in to work?



This is the plan I am working for. :nana

Add in a surgical procedure to use up all that sick time too.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
How much advance notice does an employer give you when they fire you?

So, why do you have to give them 2 weeks notice?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:01 pm to
Yet you would have no problem firing an employee without any notice. Too much power given to the employer...
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Could be a test from the new employer to see if he'd do it to his old one.


That'd be a pretty fricked up test.

"Oh, you told your current employer you were quitting to take a job with us? Sorry, that was test of your loyalty. You failed. We don't want you either."

This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104456 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:02 pm to
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So, why do you have to give them 2 weeks notice?


No one said you have to. The goal is to leave on good terms so you can use them as a reference.

Sure, not every employer is going to follow up on every reference, but if they do, you don't want the person they call trashing you.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
9009 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:03 pm to
Advice is go see current employer and say "I wish I could give you proper notice but this opportunity demands I go now. I apologize, deuces."

Personally I find the 2 weeks notice thing confusing as my company terms people when they give appropriate notice. No pay mind you. So if that person wasn't aware of this they might have a 2 week gap in worked hours and therefore no pay. Kinda bullshite.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40803 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Random question. Is it acceptable to give a months' notice then take a bunch of vacation days and then only half arse it when you actually do go in to work?


I did three weeks, took some time off and still got screwed with 1:30 going away party on my last Friday.

My boss wanted a excuse to get cake from a place that opened at noon
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

"Oh, you told your current employer you were quitting to take a job with us? Sorry, that was test of your loyalty. You failed. We don't want you either."


my employer did a post hiring follow up check with my previous employers to see what terms I left them on
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:07 pm to
If he has to quit asap for the new job then he should do it. Can't worry about the feelings of old employers. If they are grown-ups and you aren't leaving them in a bind, they will understand. Like others have said, they would probably have no problem telling you that you're laid off and expect you out the door right away.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:07 pm to
From my understanding employers can only say if a person is hirable again or not. They can not go into details about the way the person left.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:08 pm to
Any company not willing to let a future employee give two weeks isn't a company I'd want to work for.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

They can not go into details about the way the person left.

don't know if that varies from state to state but that is true in the state where I live
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26334 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Yet you would have no problem firing an employee without any notice. Too much power given to the employer...


If I was firing someone, they've either done something pretty damn bad or I've had to warn/correct them regarding the same issue over and over again.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38685 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Any company not willing to let a future employee give two weeks isn't a company I'd want to work for.

My guess is that they want to cuck their competition by pulling out an employee. That, or they're just dicks in general who want their new employee to start in a hole, knowing that it'll be that much harder for the employee to leave now that they just fricked up their work record.

This can't be anything but a low-level position.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Any company not willing to let a future employee give two weeks isn't a company I'd want to work for.


Agreed. It would have to be pretty remarkable circumstances otherwise.

Something like... "We unexpectedly lost a key employee who has a very specific skill that we know you have and desperately need as soon as possible. We know it's not ideal to jump jobs so quickly, but we will make your salary worth it."

But I doubt that's the case here...
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

This can't be anything but a low-level position.



yeah, probably not too many construction workers start at the top in the insurance field, too many ex high school football coaches clogging up the path
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2695 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Any company not willing to let a future employee give two weeks isn't a company I'd want to work for.
op later stated that new job wants him to start in mid June, which gives him time to give 2 weeks. The friend wants the bonus check before he goes. Doesn't sound like new employer is not allowing him to give 2 weeks
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